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[NSFW!!] Did Brazilian waxing bring about itsy bitsy bikinis, or did itsy bitsy bikinis spawn Brazilian waxing?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) July 26th, 2011

[NSFW!!] If you are young enough to not remember a time before at least CDs, DVDs, cell phones, or guys walking around with pants sagging half off their butts, you might not get this question. If you lived long enough you will notice how women, and now men, swimwear is getting smaller and tinier than ever. Some barely cover the naughty bits. Before Brazilian waxing, when women wore a ”Southern Mustache” many of today’s bikinis, etc could not be worn without having hair spillage. I was wondering was it the creation and the popularity of Brazilian waxing that caused bikini designers to go smaller and smaller, or was it the fashion that made the Brazilian waxing not only popular but necessary? Believe it or not, ask your grandmother, or great grand mother if you have one, swimwear for women actually did look like these vintage styles from the 50s. We have gone from this, to the itsy bitsy POSSIBLE NSFW!, just barely there POSSIBLE NSFW! if at work take caution upon opening bikini. If you are a woman which was the driving force for you; the fashion driving the waxing or visa versa, providing you have a Brazilian or a teeny weeny bikini? If you never done any, what have you witnessed? [NSFW!!]

Did you happen to notice back then the models were plumper and curvier, not bread stick looking? That is another question though.

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Bellatrix's avatar

You know @hypo, I think you just love posting photos of women in barely there bathers.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Bellatrix You know @hypo, I think you just love posting photos of women in barely there bathers. I would not have included the 50s ads to juxtapose with today’s bikinis then. Even though, the fashion of today is not anything you could not find on a beach, pool or river for those who may get the heebie jeebies I gave them a warning that they won’t see their grandma’s swimwear. Also, to keep me from trying to educate those who were not around just what is in play, a head to head comparison speeds things up. Some might not ever have fathom women actually wore that much to go swimming, and they were not even fearful of getting cancer from the Sun. Trying to describe swimwear from the late 50s and early 60s would be like trying to explain and describe a Sony Betamax, and I have tried with little success. More than 50% if the examples had more than what is usually seen at most beaches today, it is not about looking at women, even 12yr olds on the net can find racier content. ;-)

Now that we are past that. Have you ever Brazilianed, and was it because you had to because of your swimwear or you felt you could go more daring _after you went Brazilian?

Bellatrix's avatar

lol@hypo… I am pretty sure we can all imagine a 1950s swimsuit AND contemporary swimsuits.. but hey, if you enjoy posting us piccies of them, you go for it.

No, haven’t done the brazillian.. have you had a back, crack and sack wax and was it so you could look nice in your mankini? Link

marinelife's avatar

The bikinis came first.

Pele's avatar

I think the bikinis came first, too. Yes, fashion leads the way.

JessicaRTBH's avatar

I believe the bikini came first. However, I’m hoping the waxing came very soon after. I mean, that cannot be a good look – ;) I always wax but am less lazy about it in the summer

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Bellatrix No, haven’t done the brazillian.. have you had a back, crack and sack wax and was it so you could look nice in your mankini? Good thing I was done eating I have seen worse, try a transparent man bikini, and it is suppose to be legal? Shudder the thought. As Dirty Harry say ”Man has got to know his limitations”, I would not have looked good in that when I wore a younger man’s clothes. Even when I did weight lifting, so, I would never attempt; I know what I can’t pull off and what I can. Maybe MRSHINYSHOES could.

You are sure? You never Braziled or had an itsy bitsy, teeny weeny bikini? You can tell me, I will keep it a secret. :-D ;-P

@marinelife @Pele @JessicaRTBH I know the bikini came first but what cause them to start “shrinking”, getting so puny? Did women start getting Brazilian waxing and the bikini makers felt they could go to butt floss and a patch because women would not have all that pubis hanging out, or did the makers and designers go teeny 1st making it a necessity to get a Brazilian wax in order not to have unwanted pubis showing?

JessicaRTBH's avatar

In my experience selling swimwear and being a buyer.. (no way an expert though) I’d say the trend originated in places where swimwear is optional and models run freely on the beach.. Haha – only every nude beach I’ve ever been on was just the opposite – I would say it’s one of the things like some runway fashions designed for about 1% of the population and nobody else really.

woodcutter's avatar

I don’t see how the get $65.00 for those

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@JessicaRTBH The trend to getting Brazilian waxing or the bikinis getting itty bitty? One had to come first even if close together where it seem they happened simultaneously.

@woodcutter Some popular designer put his/her name on it and that made the frabric go from ordinary to magical, causing it to increase in value by the sq centimeter. How else can you have three small triangular swatches of fabric held together by straps cost more than a whole swimsuit using 8 times the fabric?

JessicaRTBH's avatar

I think the bikinis getting smaller – sorry I wasn’t very clear ;) I’m still confused about the trend of less and less hair in general though.
@ woodcutter – I agree 100% I’ve sold ones that were around $300 and the amount of fabric and cost never added up. It’s crazy.

aprilsimnel's avatar

@Bellatrix – Wow! Did you know that mankini is the exact same style as worn by Kasakhstan Celebrity Borat Sagdiyev? I’m going to have start convincing every guy I know to get one, then. Oh, wait a sec. I’ve just had a series of horrible visuals. Never mind.

NYC’s J Sisters are actually from Brazil and they set up shop almost 25 years ago, which means Brazilians have been around since the 70s, at least, @Hyp. One of them did mine when I knew I’d be going to the beaches of Oz. Even so, my bikini at the time had quite a bit more fabric than the usual tropical dental floss.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@aprilsimnel NYC’s J Sisters are actually from Brazil and they set up shop almost 25 years ago, which means Brazilians have been around since the 70s, at least, @Hyp. That would put it about the 80s. Is that before or after the arrival of the Brazilian or Rio bikini? It is a ”chicken or the egg” type question that has always fascinated me. I remember back in the mid 70s women baby smooth down South was not very common. In fact I think the trend there was a full bushy mound, at least from the men’s magazines I managed to cop. I know the motivation for many women these days is not to wear a butt floss band aid bikini but because they believe it is cleaner and/or neater. I wonder if that was started in Brazil.

woodcutter's avatar

@aprilsimnel 300 bucks for 3 triangles and some floss? gawd. does that include instalation?

JessicaRTBH's avatar

@ woodcutter – I would hope it would include much more but sadly, just a bikini and not much else. It’s crazy how much a little label can cost the consumer. The materials are nice but square cm wise it seems swimwear is where $ is made :) in textiles

woodcutter's avatar

I could make one of those, easy

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@woodcutter You have to have a name like Armani, Versace, Yves Saint Laurent , etc. That make that $6 in material magic and worth $100 per cm, maybe more!

Bellatrix's avatar

lol@hypo...no, not done the whole brazillian thing… itsy bitsy bikini, once upon a time but that was before they got to be as itsy as the bitsy things in your piccies… I did scare the hell out of some oldies at an English seaside area once though. Wore a lemony/creamy coloured bikini and was informed by two very nice looking young men that I had caused a stir and the oldies were all tutting and saying “oh dear! They aren’t starting that nude bathing here are they!! Shocking!!” Who knew it looked like I was naked from far away….

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Bellatrix Thank heavens you were not wearing one of those “pasties bikinis“_, you certainly WOULD HAVE looked naked from behind, and almost from the front.

aprilsimnel's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central, before any style reaches the masses, it’s in a different subculture first, which means that the sisters definitely plied their trade in Brazil for many years before coming here. The Brazilian swimwear didn’t get to the US until the late 80s. When I went to their salon in ‘99, those ladies were definitely in late middle age.

woodcutter's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central There is really room enough to put a name on them? Maybe just their initials.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@woodcutter Sure, you can put a name of sorts on most of them, many you would need to give them a jeweler’s lube to view it. The ones that now have the ’lip floss” front that matches the butt floss back might be a challenge. The pasties bikinis….. I don’t even know how they keep them in place dry more or less wet, and to have a name on them will make you stare where you probably can’t help staring anyhow.

I would show you an example so you could fathom how to put a name on it but I would have to do it privately. :-P

woodcutter's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central there are no kids in this room, so…

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

There are mods and their agents lurking about all the time, and they do not like seeing that much skin on Fluther.

FutureMemory's avatar

There are mods and their agents lurking about

lol

martianspringtime's avatar

I’d think that the bikini brought on the waxing, just as I doubt women were pressed to shave their legs before they wore shorter skirts/trousers. Every time a part of a woman is displayed, on come a slew of new products to “fix it”.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@martianspringtime So, when women fashion started to wear strapless, sleeveless, and backless garments it ushered in the shaved pits?

martianspringtime's avatar

@hypocrisy_central I would assume that was when it became the ‘regular’ thing to do, though of course I’m theorizing. I’m sure women shaved prior to frequently exposed body parts, but I think the revealing clothing popularizes it. Why put yourself through the trouble unless it’s visible or you just really like to wax/shave (which by the common “ugh i have to shave/wax soon” comments I would assume generally isn’t the case)?

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