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Does the movie Captain America, The First Avenger deserve its good reviews?

Asked by mazingerz88 (28812points) July 29th, 2011

I was more excited with Captain America than the Harry Potter movie but after seeing it, though I liked the first 20 minutes, the rest of the movie sucked for me. The pacing and the characterizations were more comic-book than a real movie. I maybe wrong but Cap’s relationship with the soldiers he rescued from Hydra’s prisons felt too contrived and caricatured. I didn’t like the Marvel geeks giving Joe Johnston the helm. He maybe good with visuals and sfx but boy, he doesn’t have that extra oomph.

So far, I’ve seen way more good reviews than bad ones. I think it should be the other way around. What do you think?

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Seelix's avatar

I enjoyed it. I am a comic book fan, but I didn’t know a heck of a lot about Cap going in. I thought it was fun – I liked the story, but I felt things were a little rushed. Mr. Fiance, a huuuge Marvel fan, liked it as well. Every time we go to see a comic book movie, I ask him whether it gets his approval afterward – he gave it a two thumbs up. Because they were blending the original origin story with the Ultimate universe, things were a little weird, but because it’s leading up to the Avengers and Samuel L. is Nick Fury, they had to ignore Nick Fury’s involvement in WWII.

wundayatta's avatar

Having not seen the movie, I am completely unbiased, and I am going to say it does not deserve it’s good reviews.

I wrote this before I read your details.

mazingerz88's avatar

@wundayatta Curious as to what made you reach that conclusion…

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

I have seen it 6 times and it keeps getting better.

I skipped your details as well. Just read and have edited. The movie in isolation? The first ⅔rds were wonderful. I did stop getting much out of it in the last third of the movie.

I was so very pleased with it because I felt they did the best possible job setting this particular character up; the character is boring once he becomes Captain America.

I really want to see this character lead the other characters in the Avengers movie. And the Avengers movie will be a lot deeper from having watched this film.

Joker94's avatar

I enjoyed it. I mean, it wasn’t the most innovative or “smartest” superhero flick I’ve seen, but it was still fun movie with a pretty solid cast. I thought it was rather well paced, @mazingerz88, I was wondering what made you think otherwise?

wundayatta's avatar

@mazingerz88 I just had a feeling. Pure, dumb luck!

mazingerz88's avatar

@Imadethisupwithnoforethought I think I need to see it again but what’s keeping me is exactly what you said about not getting much later in the movie and that’s when it should have been great!

@Joker94 Guess the bar was set high for me after the first Ironman. Thor almost fizzled halfway but was saved the last 10 minutes. With the Cap, the uneasiness started when after just being enhanced with powers and his doctor creator-friend killed, he immediately got shown in stage marching-bond raising scenes.

It may have worked in a comic book and there’s nothing wrong with raising war money but it just did not make sense to me after all that pre-power scenes where he wanted so bad to fight. That general putting him down just because he did not get his army of supersoldiers was cinematically dumb in my view. He still would make a difference in the field. Guess, what I wanted was a complete scene showing how and why Rogers agreed to stay behind and not fight yet after all that build-up in the beginning.

Plus, everyone knows the secret is having a great villain. This one sucked. And maybe it’s just me but didn’t the second half felt like there’s too many montages?

@wundayatta Well, you do know your odds I guess…

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@mazingerz88 I love comic book movies and myths and the study of myths in general.

The problem with Captain America is that he is just a good human being. He has no conflict. He is a good guy who is given power. You have to make up stuff for him to fight. The war bond stuff I actually thought was awesome, as I thought, yes, that is probably exactly what would happen to that bastard. And he would do it, because he puts his wants (to fight) second after what the senator asks, because the senator makes him think that is the best possible use for him.

The General was putting him down because he was pissed at the situation. But the general really wanted him studied.

Once he saved that division and everybody started letting him fight? That’s when I lost it. No conflict anymore. The conflict was he was impotent. Once he got his way, no conflict.

mazingerz88's avatar

@Imadethisupwithnoforethought Yes, that’s it! That “impotence” would have been kept if maybe in spite of his powers ( which were not that great really ) he was subjected to fights where his courage mattered more than his super-strength. I did not feel that in any way at all. Like you said, no more conflict.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

If they had ended the movie with the General saying ” Are you ready to help us take on Hydra?” I would be saying best movie ever.

mazingerz88's avatar

@Imadethisupwithnoforethought Agree! Joss Whedon I heard would write the sequel. Wish they asked Blade writer David Goyer to write this first one and Guillermo del Toro to direct.

El_Cadejo's avatar

I saw it opening day and I must say I was underwhelmed. I didnt think it was horrible, but defintely not good. I think it took far far to long for him to actually become Captain America. And once he did actually become the Captain America we know it all seemed very rushed. And I really didnt need to see what felt like 45 min of him prancing around singing. I get what they were doing but it was stretched out far to long. The character development was shit. I mean red skull looked great but they didnt really tell you dick about him. Bucky was done in a fucktarded way imo, if there were going to do that they really shouldnt have even put him in there.

Honestly, I liked Thor more and thats not saying much.

mazingerz88's avatar

@uberbatman Thanks. My feelings exactly.

Haleth's avatar

It was pretty bad. My boyfriend, who loves cheesy action movies, even thought it was bad. The characters were one-dimensional and the plotting was predictable, even though I’m not familiar with the comics. The movie was unabashedly patriotic and the difference between good and evil was very black-and-white. Also, I thought that the message of the movie, the little guy with a good heart finally winning, was kind of hypocritical here. As soon as Captain America steps out with his buff new body, he’s not really the little guy anymore. You know he’s going to get the girl and beat the bad guy- that’s the whole point of an action movie. Meh.

Berserker's avatar

Haven’t seen it, but my roomie downloaded it on her laptop, and copied it to my PS3. So it’s there for me to watch…however, I have never read any of the comic books, so I don’t know how relevant my opinion would be, in relation to that. I’ve been holding off because it’s like two hours long, and I don’t have much of an interest in super heroes. And now you tell me it sucks…well, I’ll get back to you after I see it, probably do that tonight.

mazingerz88's avatar

@Symbeline Sorry. But please post what you think later, thanks!

Joker94's avatar

@mazingerz88 Sorry about the late response, dude! Anywho, I rather liked the bond-raising scenes. Even though they slowed down the movie some, I thought it showed the Captain’s learning curve in a good way, how he went from being a push-over to a bad ass, for lack of a better term. Even though it would’ve made sense to show why Rogers stayed behind to promote war bonds, I thought it was a bit funnier in the storytelling sense to show him thrust uncomfortably into those big band numbers.

I agree, maybe the second half relied a bit too much on montages, but I didn’t find them to be annoying or bad. Oh, and the villain definitely could’ve been done better. I mean, it was Hugo Weaving, for crying out loud! If they expanded on his character, it could’ve been better. I think waiting for his reveal as the Red Skull would’ve made more sense, too.

josie's avatar

I really liked it. A good “good guy”, a creepy “bad guy”. Unrequited love. Great themes.
Good movie.

mazingerz88's avatar

@Joker94 Ok I might see it again just for that post of yours. Maybe it will be different for me this time. Lol.

Saw Green Lantern twice and whatever minor dissatisfaction I had, the multi million dollar digital effects made up for it. Also saw Thor twice, the second time with 3D. Prefer to watch 2D the first time just in case it’s not worth paying for 3D that time. All I can say is hallelujah to the present day digital effects universe which made all these fantastic worlds and superhero powers come to life! : )

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