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Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

Which threads are more likely to get you in a heated discussion: Gender Related or Politics?

Asked by Imadethisupwithnoforethought (14669points) August 18th, 2011

Not to imply people are sometimes upset on the internet.

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Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

If those are the only two options, then it is easy: gender-related discussions. As for politics, I have little to no experience in this arena. Plus, political discussions seem to have less ability to change someone’s view. Gender-related topics are much easier to bust the myth and stereotypes.

Cruiser's avatar

Of the 2 politics can sometimes get the sparks flying and gender related issues IMO are more of a personal matter I see no reason at all to debate.

ucme's avatar

Not a god damn single one….oh dear, I appear to have turned into John Wayne!?!
I’m not going to get my knickers in a twist over a discussion on a website, uh huh, no way sister XD

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

Politics are always fun for me! :)

Blondesjon's avatar

Politics.

I’ve never understood the big deal over what kind of pee pee you have.

the same goes for race too. assholes come in all the colors of the rainbow.

erichw1504's avatar

I’m with @Pied_Pfeffer on this one.

incendiary_dan's avatar

Gender politics.

Mariah's avatar

Definitely gender threads. It’s more personal so I have more knowledge to argue it better. Plus politics just piss me off lately and I don’t bother debating them because it’s not as if I’m going to change anybody’s mind.

Porifera's avatar

What @ucme said. Saves me some typing, he is always on point.

KatawaGrey's avatar

Gender threads, though it would only take a few small differences on fluther for it to flip. No, I am not going elaborate.

picante's avatar

What @Porifera said about what @ucme said.

downtide's avatar

Definitely gender. I have no interest in politics, especially politics of countries other than my own. But I have a personal interest in the subject of gender.

ucme's avatar

@Porifera & yes, you too @picante Wise words, wise words indeed ;¬}

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

The two aren’t mutually exclusive, you know?
It depends on what the question is about and on whether that particular day I’m tired of discussing one or the other with other people. @Blondesjon – I didn’t know pee-pees didn’t matter. Why can’t I freely use the men’s bathroom then without harassment? And why do intersex children get ‘fixed’ unnecessarily?

incendiary_dan's avatar

“The personal is political.”

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@incendiary_dan – everything personal is political. We don’t live in a post-identity politics world. Though it’s a nice pipe dream.

Blondesjon's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir . . . Amend that to mean that pee pees don’t matter to me. Me being the only person I can speak for.

And, if I’m not mistaken, I said I didn’t see what the big deal was.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@Blondesjon – Granted. Yes, neither does it all matter to me. Thanks for clarifying.

FutureMemory's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir dan is agreeing with you when he says the personal is political.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@FutureMemory I know. I know where he’s coming from, most every one of his posts.

incendiary_dan's avatar

Plus I’m sure @Simone_De_Beauvoir has heard that quote a bajillion times.

FutureMemory's avatar

It sounded like she was trying to convince you is all. I misread it her wording I guess.

woodcutter's avatar

It’s the same thing to most people. If I have to pick between these two it would be politics, barely. I see there are some who give up on discussions because they aren’t going to change people’s minds anyway? Really! That’s the bar that is set to stay involved? It’s no wonder some get verklempt. Seems arrogant to me to think one has any ability at all to do that, or, that it’s their place to administer change of mind.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

@woodcutter It sounds like you are addressing my comment, if not others as well. Gender based discussions are very important to me. I don’t expect someone to become more open-minded by anything that I post, but there is always the hope that it will plant a seed that may later grow into a better understanding of the bigger picture of individuality and diversity. Case in point: both @downtide and @Simone_De_Beauvoir have helped me with with this by their posts. They have very different styles of delivering their messages, but I listen to and take what they have to say seriously.

No one expects to actually see results on a web site, at least I hope not. More often than not, it is just a place to vent about personal views that fall on deaf ears in their real lives. Despite that, there are some well crafted responses that cause people to take pause and question their current stance. If this never happened, it would be a sad, sad world.

Berserker's avatar

Gender related discussions, although I don’t really participate in big huge debates much.

YARNLADY's avatar

How about a third choice? Parenting

Zaku's avatar

Politics.

KateTheGreat's avatar

Gender related discussion. I’ve seen them go straight to the deepest pits of hell and back. ::shudders::

I avoid them like the plague.

everephebe's avatar

Gender Politics… Dammit, Dan beat me to that.
I think Gender… out of those two.

Your_Majesty's avatar

I wish I could say religion. Some people are more sensitive about certain subject than other people and it all depends on how many people on fluther with the same and opposite interests, they could also have different points of view of the same subject.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@Your_Majesty (and others) I realized after I started reading the responses I should have included religion. Looking over some other threads since I posted have reminded me sometimes people get a little pointed on those threads as well.

HungryGuy's avatar

Probably gender related more so than politics. When you debate politics, people expect there to be differences of opinion. There’s still heated arguments sometimes, but people expect there to be heated arguments sometimes.

With gender issues, you’re often dealing with people who are routinely oppressed and/or discriminated against (gay folk, trans folk, poly families, or just plain hedonists, etc.). Not to blame the victim, but often the oppressed person will consider anyone as ignorant and/or the enemy who doesn’t agree with him 100%, even if they agree 99% and differ in opinion in 1%.

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