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Should I feel bad about asking for a reference? Plus more...

Asked by prioritymail (1630points) August 24th, 2011

I left Company A several years ago and didn’t keep in touch with anyone there (I can be a little antisocial and am just generally not good at keeping in touch with people). A campus student job I’m applying for is demanding references specifically from paid work in order to be hired. I just got back in touch with Company A two days ago simply because I wanted to reconnect and feel like asking for a reference would be like saying “Hey, how are you after all these years. Can I ask you for a personal favor?” and it would make it look like I got back in touch just to ask for a reference.

Another question:

The only other paid job I’ve had in the last 5 years is with someone that I neither respect nor consider competent and do not want to ever be in touch with again. I feel like everyone I’ve ever worked with in my entire life would give me a stellar reference except this particular crazy person. I would prefer not to use this person as a reference because (1) I don’t think I’d get a positive reference and (2)
I don’t want to be associated with this person at all as people will start to think I’m the same way. I’m basically being told who I need to provide as references, though. I have a lot of friends and professional people I have done volunteer work with that I’d rather use as references but they will not accept them because it isn’t from “paid work”.

What do you think the best way to handle this situation is? I feel like if I try to explain why I don’t want to use this person as a reference, it will turn into a my-word-against-theirs thing that will be unproductive and still make me look bad.

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marinelife's avatar

Asking for a reference from an immediate supervisor is not really asking for a favor. It is just business as usual.

So, don’t feel bad about asking people from Company A to provide references.

Also, don’t ask the person that you have a bad feeling about. Is there someone else in management at that job that could give you a reference?

prioritymail's avatar

@marinelife Thanks for the reply. The second company only had two people (start up) and they were married.

wundayatta's avatar

I have former employees I haven’t heard from in ages asking me for references all the time. It’s not a big deal. Who cares if they think you’re making nice because you want a reference. You can disprove that theory simply by staying in touch afterwards.

Don’t ask the former boss you hate. Never, ever, ever ask for a reference from anyone unless you are dead sure it will be a good reference.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

If you are in the US, and a company requests references, all you need to provide is the name of the company and contact information. If the previous employer has any knowledge on US law, they know that they are only required to provide confirmation to the hire and termination dates, and salary range listed on your application. They can also share if you would be eligible for rehire.

As a former hiring manager, I did check references. Most were taken with a grain of salt unless there was a pattern or major discrepancy. Letters of reference meant little unless followed up on and confirmed.

If Company A has an HR dept., just give a contact name and number. If Company B wants a written confirmation, then contact Company A yourself and ask for it.

prioritymail's avatar

Company A doesn’t have an HR dept. Are you saying that I don’t need to ask to use them as a reference? That I simply provide new people (university, not company) with contact info ?

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

If the company doesn’t have an HR dept., then most likely the reference checker will ask for or get routed to the person you last reported to. If that person still works for the company, then it would be a professional courtesy to let them know that they may be receiving a call from a potential employer. I’ve had this done, and all that was needed was a “Hi, I’m applying for a job and have put you down as a reference for Company A. I just wanted to give you a heads-up in case they call.” It was appreciated so that I could have their basic information on hand rather than having to call the contact back once I was able to look up their records.

It was also nice to have a quick chat with past employees. Many disappear off of the radar, and whether they left on good terms or bad, there is a comfort in knowing that they are still out there and moving forward.

prioritymail's avatar

I see! Thanks for the reply. Maybe I am confusing “reference” with “recommendation”?

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

Ah, that could very well be. A reference is different than a recommendation. Typically, a reference is contact information submitted by the applicant. A recommendation is a verbal or written notification regarding the former employer’s credentials.

dank1973's avatar

As business references, I don’t think they are allowed to discuss anything except business: were you on-time, did you get things accomplished,etc. With this being said, I don’t think they will consider it a favor; it’s very common that you need a reference for a job. I typically just let the person know that I put them down as a reference and have never had someone act ill-will towards that. Good luck!

prioritymail's avatar

@dank1973 Thanks! I didn’t realize it was such a minor thing, but feel a lot better now having heard from you Flutherites.

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