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[nsfw] Ten "pros" are arrested at a private party. What would you expect their average age to be?

Asked by wundayatta (58663points) October 13th, 2011

What are your preconceptions (or what is your knowledge) about who engages in prostitution and why they do this work? Where does your information about prostitution come from?

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CWOTUS's avatar

Wait a minute, are you suggesting that we should even make assumptions about what gender they were?

john65pennington's avatar

Lets assume the prostitutes are females for the sake of answering this question.

The average age would probably be in their early 20s.

My information comes from personal knowledge on the raids I have participated in, while in a police uniform.

You just don’t see many “over the hill” female prostitutes.

Saggy does not sell.

fundevogel's avatar

How swank is the party? Is there blow involved?

I need more information.

Blackberry's avatar

Their average age? Hard to guess. It could be 25, or 45. My information comes from various sources of pretty much every medium. I do not care why prostitutes are prostitutes, they are humans.

I do know that our society is based upon needing money to survive.

LuckyGuy's avatar

Ok, I’ll bite…. Here’s my preconceived notion.
Since it was 10 of them, I figure it was a pretty big party. Since it was a big party I figure the venue is large enough and private enough to house such illegal activity. Since there is already illegal activity I will assume drugs are also involved. Now, who has money to spend on a large private house and is willing to take part in illegal activity? Certainly not someone who works in a 9–5 job and has a family. I will guess a rock star, a football player or a drug dealer. What age group would be enamored with such individuals and their money? Young females.

So my prediction is: Party at the “crib” of a drug dealer, rapper or football player. His birthday party. Age 30. The women’s average age: 20. Drugs are also around but no charges pressed..

GabrielsLamb's avatar

I’m actually writing a book about that because it has always fascinated me too. I was considering the reasearch that I might do to find that out and so far the only thing I can think of is a combination of abuse, drug addiction and or maybe a sex addiction?

Honestly I can’t understand enduring that kind of thing… It is difficult to consider the nightly one after the other aspect of it. It’s got to be a very disturbed psyche that allows that into their spirit.

wundayatta's avatar

@worriedguy Hmmm. You got the drug thing sort of right. The cops found a small amount of drugs. It was a private facility that is used for banquets when it isn’t being used as a clubhouse where they prepare for a kind of pageant—i.e., they make very fancy costumes.

The people were more ordinary middle class men; not high status people. I don’t know what their ages were. The party cost $30 to get in. They got one free glass of beer with that and access to the pros. The pros were selling services for between $30 and $100 and were providing those services within the full view of others at the “event.” I don’t know if there were any non-pro “girls” there.

@Blackberry The average age was within the range you suggest, but could you take more of a risk and pick an age, please?

@fundevogel how do you think swankness of party relates to average age of pro?

@CWOTUS Wow. I don’t expect you to be that risk-averse! You won’t even guess the gender of the pros? Does it even matter? Do you think the average age would be different based on whether they were male, female, transgendered, hermaphrodite, cross-dressed or whatever? If so, tell my why, please.

@GabrielsLamb Thank you for the speculation on why they do it. Do you think those guesses might help you guess about average age? If not, what do you guess the average age is, and what might be factors that lead to that?

@john65pennington Yes. They are females. Points for that! Why do you think “over the hill” would be saggy? Or at what age do you think women become saggy? And why don’t you think saggy sells? Obviously, you are wrong about your age estimate, given that @Blackberry has bracketed the average age.

I will tell you this—being as I am 55, it is not unsurprising that I know a number of 50-plus women, including my wife. There are a lot of them (again, including my wife, of whom I have a much more intimate knowledge) that do not look saggy at all to me. Perhaps things are different where you come from. Or perhaps that is a preconception that deserves review.

GabrielsLamb's avatar

@wundayatta I couldn’t and probably wouldn’t guess age… I mean it’s too hard to guess from that information really. There are private swing parties that are adults only where they actually Do things that kids at a party wouldn’t dare do or even think about to execute.

But I think adult behavior looks more like it in those kinds of situations than it would if it were a bunch of kids so… I still don’t know?

*Please don’t tell me there was either a prostitution ring being run by teenagers or geriatric septagenarians… I need to keep some small portion of my view of the world in tact as still having some type of morality and common sense left.

So it’s a tough call and one that I wouldn’t make really. All I would be able to successfully assume is that if there was money incolved that it was prostitution at all.

If not… It was probably just people doing what people do at most ages when they get together… Have sex and drink.

wundayatta's avatar

Well, I have held you in suspense long enough, I think. Here are the ages of the prostitutes:

32, 40, 26, 35, 51, 24, 46, 36, 36, 44.

The average age is 37.

So I have to say that I was quite surprised. Of course, I don’t know if this was some peculiar to this situation, or if it reflects the state of the economy or what. I think it is a general preconception that whores will be under 25, but only one was in this group. and four were aged 40 or older!

Now I know you don’t have to be saggy if you are getting up towards 50, but I also know from other questions I have asked here that men tend to stop seeing women as they get older.

Anyway, this blew my mind and I’m guessing most of you are pretty surprised, too. Pretty interesting, no?

Blackberry's avatar

@wundayatta I’m honestly not surprised. Is that bad?

wundayatta's avatar

@Blackberry The only thing that is bad is that you didn’t tell me why you weren’t surprised.

Blackberry's avatar

@wundayatta Hmmm, I guess because my general preconceptions of prostitution were just of women doing it instead of young women. Instead of a young woman being forced into it, using as a last resort, doing it for the money without shame etc., I understand that’s not past anyone, young or old.

I’ve seen young and old prostitutes.

wundayatta's avatar

Holy Jesus! Here are pictures of the women (and the three men also arrested). This can’t be right. I just can’t be!

Blackberry's avatar

@wundayatta I want 1 and 11! Where’s my wallet?

LuckyGuy's avatar

Yikes! I was going to ask how old the men were but after reading the article I think I can guess. 65?

GabrielsLamb's avatar

@Blackberry I would have pictured you more a 1 or a 5… 11 Really? (LOL)

Actually… I would have pictured you a NONE OF THE ABOVE!

Blackberry's avatar

@GabrielsLamb 5 looks like she’s trying too hard. 1 and 11 look natural.

wundayatta's avatar

The are mug shots, for Pete’s sake. Trying too hard?

SpatzieLover's avatar

About what I’d expect. Renting apartments, we occassionally get a madame or two in an apartment. Generally the women are over 35, then they hire more “girls” a bit younger than they are.

6rant6's avatar

@blackberry Bet that’s the first time she’s been referred to as an 11.

I’m saying meth.

CWOTUS's avatar

Me? Risk-averse? Hell no! But I’m still not going to follow @worriedguy‘s lead and take a bite of anything here. Not without a mouthguard and a dental dam, anyway. And presuming too much gender-wise in this forum is a good way to get your nuts handed to you, if you had any to begin with. So maybe “just a bit”.

The only preconceptions I have about who engages in prostitution is that:
It’s men who engage with prostitutes – or women – or ‘and’ women – and (or) other self-identified or non-identified genders.

The prostitutes are more than likely human, although dolphins and primates have been known to engage in consensual sex (one presumes) with other dolphins and primates, without regard to payment (I presume). Presumably this (aside from the fact that few laws apply to dolphins and other primates) obviates the “prostitution” charge.

I expect that the “why” is to satisfy a demand. Sometimes it’s a market demand, and other times it seems to be a psychological / pathological compulsion. Sometimes it’s a parental or ownership demand, unfortunately. (Or “also unfortunately”.)

Ages: 8 to 80. Give or take on either end.

Most of my information on prostitution comes from watching C-Span. Those folks have no shame at all.

Neizvestnaya's avatar

Mid 20’s, at least that’s what it is out where I live. Most of the upscale restaurants with nice bars and hotels with “party” bars have regular prostitutes and escort handlers.

Blackberry's avatar

@wundayatta The tan, the eyebrows and lip stuff: a little much in my opinion.
@6rant6 Everyone needs a pounding self esteem boost, occasionally :P

Blackberry's avatar

Whoa, wait a minute, the pictures changed order on the website! Now it’s 2 and 11.

Neizvestnaya's avatar

eeeek. I just saw the pics and those look like people who gather at our local Circle K stores selling/buying drugs and throwing up by the dumpsters. I wouldn’t have figured them for party prostitutes, maybe a few of them dive joint strippers.

Bellatrix's avatar

I would have said in their 20s but after @Coloma told me about the 70 year old prostitute, I guess anything is possible!

bkcunningham's avatar

What the heck is a Fancy Brigade (Mummers) Club?

bkcunningham's avatar

Seriously, is the Fancy Brigade (Mummers) Club a group of pantomimers?

wundayatta's avatar

Mummers

It’s a Philadelphia tradition. The clubs spend all year making costumes and practicing for performances which are held on Broad street on New Year’s Day. One of these years, I need to go. But there’s a lot of drinking involved, too and some anti-social behavior comes along with that. Plus there are huge crowds and I’m not a big fan of crowds.

There are four different types of clubs, not just the Fancy Brigade. I don’t remember what they are, though. They get awards and perform year ‘round, I think.

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