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School uniform busting, which method is the best in getting the school to change their policy?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) August 13th, 2013

School for many is right around the corner. If a cache of students who are tired of the uniform regiment want to their school to change the policy on uniforms, and they want to boycott should they:
• Go to school out of uniform.
• Go to school in uniform but don’t go to class and clog the quad, etc.
• Go to school, go to class, but not participate.
• Don’t go to school altogether to get the faculty to notice.
Which would be the most effective, if nothing more to voice their displeasure, and how much of the population would they have to get to agree to stand with them, IE 45%, 67%, more or less, for the action to have any teeth?

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syz's avatar

None of the above.

Why must every option be some sort of poor behavior? Why not get the student council involved, start a student petition, get parent support, schedule a school debate, draft suggested rules changes, request a meeting with school officials, and create change by showing thoughtful foresight and mature behavior?

rojo's avatar

Everyone go to school out of uniform that way you all get sent home. WHOO HOO! double point win!

rojo's avatar

The other thing you can do is have everyone goose-step wherever you have to go.

rojo's avatar

PS you can’t win so just have fun with it.

talljasperman's avatar

Get everyone together and start your own school. That way everything is fair. Nothing wrong with homeschooling.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@rojo The other thing you can do is have everyone goose-step wherever you have to go.
CLASSIC, had me rolling! I can see that and mass detentions and or suspensions in the wind. LOL LOL LOL

@talljasperman Nothing wrong with homeschooling.
Parents won’t make the time sacrifice to do that, they are too busy making money….

rojo's avatar

Spent my time in detention back in the day.

johnpowell's avatar

As a seriously poor kid that school shopping was a frugal trip to Goodwill I would have given anything for a uniform.

I got so much shit for wearing clothes that were poor. First impressions and all.

livelaughlove21's avatar

The most effective thing to do would be to wear the uniform, shut their mouths, and focus on school instead of fashion.

JLeslie's avatar

The most I would tolerate is if they tried to fight for more options regarding their uniform, that I would listen to. No need to take any of the measures you stated, they can do that while wearing their current uniform. I completely support uniforms and no one below the age of 18 is going to change my mind, I don’t care what they do.

gorillapaws's avatar

I would go to school wearing shirts with religious content (or pastafarian content if Atheist). Turn it into a first amendment issue. We’re America, where we’re supposed to celebrate individuality, not conformity to the collective. Uniforms are as un-American an idea as it gets.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@gorillapaws Pastafarian? Sounds delicious!

rojo's avatar

Sure, @JLeslie lets go with the red armbands with that brownshirt!

josie's avatar

I don’t know where you are from. Where I live, the only schools that have a uniform policy are private. Meaning, you can always go someplace else.
The public schools, where people graduate and are still illiterate, do not require uniforms.
I am sure it is not always the same everyplace.
But that is how it is where I live.

JLeslie's avatar

@rojo Who wears that? I know I should know.

@josie Many school districts have uniforms for public schools.

YARNLADY's avatar

The school is a reflection of the will or the majority. Uniforms have been chosen as one of many ways to protect the students.

Students need to understand why this is true. If there is a legitimate complaint, let them make up petitions stating their point of view and present it to the school board.

gailcalled's avatar

(Group, not cache)

(Regimentation, not regiment.)

rojo's avatar

Ya Vol Mein @gailcalled

as someone on another topic said, “It always comes back to Hitler”.

zenvelo's avatar

They should wear scarves and bandannas around their neck in their favorite gang colors. After all, @Hypocrisy_Central you are pro gang to ask such a question. That’s why they have uniforms at that high school.

Let teh kids pick each other off for wearing the wrong colors. Dead kids don’t need uniforms.

gailcalled's avatar

@rolo: What does English usage have to do with Hitler?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@zenvelo After all,@Hypocrisy_Central you are pro gang to ask such a question.
WOW, wow….. You have a very active imagination or you are snorting, swigging, or smoking some really potent stuff. I don’t recall asking “Should gangs have the freedom of expression to fly their gang colors at school exempt from any uniform requirements?”

YARNLADY's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central So, now you are getting at the point. How specific should the rules be? It’s ok to wear (these) colors, but not (those). It’s OK to put (this) word on your shirt, but not (that) one. It’s OK to promote (this) organization, but not (that) one.

How much skin should be allowed to show? How tight should the clothes be? Where do you stop making a rule for every specific case and simply require uniforms?

rojo's avatar

@gailcalled

Grammar Nazi!

No soup for you!

gailcalled's avatar

Sigh. It’s not grammar; it’s usage. And it’s misspelling no matter what the language.

(Jawohl;—meine.)

rojo's avatar

Usage Nazi! No soup for you!

Sunny2's avatar

This won’t be a popular answer, but I taught in a big city high school in a tough neighborhood. They had a dress code that required that the boys wear a shirt and tie. The theory was that if a kid got really angry, he would tear off his tie furiously instead of kicking in a locker, throwing a desk, or hitting someone. It seemed to work pretty well.

JLeslie's avatar

@Sunny2 So, did you ever see someone tear off their tie furiously? Or, even hear of someone doing it? When I lived in TN someone once told me that the private school that required a tie was better, because that’s why the kids grew up to care about how they dressed and fit into society better. As opposed to the black kids in public school. Totally racist. But, that was in the south where the white kids were in private school and the black kids were in public. Oh, except for all the white kids who did attend public school in other parts of the county. I couldn’t believe it! I’m all for uniforms, because I think it helps eliminate fights about clothing for the parents, makes it easy on the child to decide what to wear, helps level the playing field between poor children and those who can afford more, but I never had though of it in terms of training to wear a tie. I know you didn’t say that, I mean this guy I talked to.

KNOWITALL's avatar

I’m with @johnpowell, I would have killed to have an equal footing with everyone.

@hypocrisycentral In your case, I’d go through proper channels (student council, petitions, etc…) and not instigate children to ignore the purpose of school, which is getting your education.

Sunny2's avatar

@JLeslie Yes, I did. A boy stomped his foot. pulled off his and threw it on the floor. He was the only one I actually saw, but I was convinced. However, your points about avoiding the hassle of who is wearing what, is well taken.

JLeslie's avatar

@Sunny2 Interesting. For whatever reason I find it funny.

rojo's avatar

I would still go the radical bring down the man and his ignorant, brutal regime route

SmartAZ's avatar

All your answers are stupid because the schools have failed to teach you what they were created to teach. Schools get money according to attendance. So you don’t attend. You take classes at the community college instead, and you take the subjects that the public schools don’t teach: civics, personal money management, and drama (so you learn how to behave in social settings). That is a different world, partly because everybody there is grown up, sort of, and partly because the school would not exist if they didn’t produce results, at least a little bit.

Here are a book and an essay to help you understand:
The Lost Tools of Learning
The Underground History Of Public Education

Another eye opening piece is “Dress For Success” by John Molloy. He has a lot of advice for students, and it has no resemblance to guidance you get from school counselors:
1. Vocal skill will affect your earning power more than any other single detail.
2. Acting skill will get you a job offer even if you are not qualified for the job.
3. The most important thing you get from your college years is your address book.
4. The main difference between a successful man and a very successful man is the latter knows hundreds more people, and he knows them quite well.

Plan your schooling accordingly.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@YARNLADY How specific should the rules be? It’s ok to wear (these) colors, but not (those). It’s OK to put (this) word on your shirt, but not (that) one. It’s OK to promote (this) organization, but not (that) one.
I guess that would be the school or the district determining that. As someone mentioned gangs, I guess if a gang used a certain color, that color would be banned, if a conservative district they would dictate hem lines and heel heights, they might even dictate usage of face jewelry or hair color, but I would think that would be more on dress code than uniforms.

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