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Isn't it time to pass the Equal Rights Amendment?

Asked by ETpro (34594points) October 17th, 2013

Why hasn’t the Solid South ratified the Equal Rights Amendment? We’re just two states short of passing it. In 1776, our nation’s founders penned these lofty words.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The Founding Fathers signed their intent to implement such a government. Isn’t it time, almost 240 years after setting those soaring thoughts to paper and signing their intent to implement them, that we live up to the spirit of that founding document? Watch this brief video and see if you agree it’s time to push the Neanderthals among us into the 21st century.

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josie's avatar

Sorry. You lost me at Neanderthal.

KNOWITALL's avatar

Well lawdy, how is little ole me supposed to answer that, let me ask my husband….lol

Seriously though, it’s always been a male dominated country because women were fragile creatures in England, and somehow that was brought into America. The dense forest, wild animals and Indians made for a tough time breaking the country, and men often left Europe to come and establish their farms here then brought the women and children. The wealthier landed gentry bought up a lot of the south for it’s fertile grounds and established large farms, so the South is traditionally the more conservative areas.

Personally, I think it’s growing to be more equal but much slower than I’d like to see. Of course the great abortion debate doesn’t help. Some Christian conservatives just ask that women are responsible for their own bodies and not use abortion as birth control, but women keep pretending they have no control over getting pregnant. Then we have all these rapes because of our ‘entitled’ youth that don’t know boundaries.

Just so you know, there is such a thing as a strong southern woman. I do the bills, I work full time and have (worked) since age 12, I mow and do the lawn care, I do it all, and I also cook, clean and take care of the home. Enjoli, I may get paid less because I choose to live in my beautiful Ozarks, but I’m not dominated, trust.

elbanditoroso's avatar

It was time 25 years ago,

But you’re misreading the constitution. The originalists would say that it reads “all men are created equal”. That specifically excludes women. So the Scalias of the world would maintain that they’re simply following the words of the founding fathers.

Blondesjon's avatar

You contend that we live in a police state where the Constitution is raped daily so what difference would it make?

glacial's avatar

@KNOWITALL “because women were fragile creatures in England, and somehow that was brought into America.”

I’m not sure where you came by this perception of British women. Have you done any reading about the suffragette movement? What those women went through to gain the vote is astounding.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@glacial Yes, actually I’m intrigued with old England and how it affected and still affects the US. Susan B. Anthony is one of my heroes, too.

I’m specifically speaking of ladies who were bred for decoration and breeding, which seemed to be treasured in so many periods of time in Europe. I call them delicate flowers….lol

rojo's avatar

According to Ann Coulter, if they take away womens right to vote then that will guarantee no new democratic presidents.

Linda_Owl's avatar

It is way past the time to pass the Equal Rights Amendment. But most members of Congress are still stuck in a “Patriarchal” frame of mind.

filmfann's avatar

I am guessing you are refering to the Equal Rights Amendment that expired on June 30, 1982, since it had not been ratified. To pass it now, we would have to get 38 states to vote for it (in 1982, it was 3 states shy of ratification).
A better question might be “Is the ERA still necessary?”

ETpro's avatar

@josie I didn’t put you in that category. If you feel the shoe fits, it’s your call.

@KNOWITALL I’m sure you are right the South is changing. I grew up there, and much has improved since those days 60 years or more ago. Change comes slowly there, but it does come.

@elbanditoroso It excluded everyone but white, landowning gentry when it was written. I’d guess deep down Scalia would say it still should do so, because that means he’s in and most Americans are out.

@Blondesjon I indeed do see that we often ignore the Constitution, but that doesn’t make me wish to toss it on the trash heap. Are you suggesting that we should? I certainly have never advocated that. I stand for just the opposite, in fact. We should return to the Constitution, and where it is lacking in today’s world, we should follow the proper procedure to amend it.

@glacial Glad you pointed that out.

@rojo She’s probably right about that, but by the same token it would guarantee the Coultergeist would never become president. Might be worth the price. :-)

@Linda_Owl If you listen to the video clip, that comes through loud and clear in their own patriarchal words.

@filmfann Yes, that is the ERA I’m referring to. There is the fact that women still make $0.77 for each $1.00 men earn for the same job. Now, many women are the sole source of income for their family, so the impact of inequality is far greater than it was in 1982.

No, it shouldn’t take a Constitutional Amendment. The existing Constitution says that all citizens are to be treated equally under the law. But when that comes before the likes of Scalia, they have difficulty with reading comprehension. Instead, they parse through a document that exists only in their minds. So how specific do you have to get before the SCOTUS Con Men’s hand waving isn’t enough to make the language of the Constitution disappear right before our eyes?

ragingloli's avatar

The last thing the south wants is equal rights. They fought a war to prevent it, remember?

Strauss's avatar

If the South has proven one thing, it’s the old adage: _THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN…AND AGAIN…and again…and again…and again…

KNOWITALL's avatar

@ragingloli Let me guess, you think the confederate flag is racist, too, right? The Civil War had more to do with State’s rights originally than slavery. That means small government interference.

@Yetanotheruser (insert rebel yell)

ragingloli's avatar

The civil war was about slavery. Read the official texan declaration of causes.
Notice how they refer to themselves as the “slave holding states”.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@ragingloli Here’s a good article that may clarify thing’s a little better. Most people think it’s all about slavery but it’s actually more than that.

“The debate over which powers rightly belonged to the states and which to the Federal Government became heated AGAIN in the 1820s and 1830s fueled by the divisive issue of whether slavery would be allowed in the new territories forming as the nation expanded westward.”

glacial's avatar

@KNOWITALL “states rights”

Oh wow. Just… wow.

ETpro's avatar

@KNOWITALL States rights to be slave states. Sorry, but as a student of history growing up in the unreconstructed South, it was about slavery and white gentry’s inherent rights. It was not about state’s rights except as it came to guaranteeing those states wealthy landowners to profit from slave wages. That’s what they are still fighting for.

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