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Can you help me understand how the refusal of most republican governors to expand Medicaid in their state is affecting people?

Asked by Dutchess_III (46811points) November 9th, 2013

For example, this was posted on FB:

“Thank you OBAMA CARE!!! Just found out they will discharge Roger next week from the rehab hospital, even though he can’t transfer sefely without at least 2 people. The only option this plan is offering is a) nursing home or b) you are on your own. And to think Roger spent 20 years in the air force defending our great nation (and most likely got the brain cancer from being a fighter pilot) I am BEYOND mad…..WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS FIASCO —”

Thing is, as far as I can tell, the OP lives in Arizona, and they were fortunate enough to have a republican governor with some brains, who DID expand medicaid.

So, is she right to blame her situation on the ACA, or is there something else going on?

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Seek's avatar

Having absolutely no information on what their issues are or what insurance coverage they have…

Home health care is expensive. You’re hiring a skilled worker full time in your own home. Many insurance providers do not cover full time in-home care.

If this person needs full time care, their insurance makes nursing home coverage available. If they opt not to use that coverage, they are free to explore other options out of their own pockets, or search for a plan that provides home health care. Spoiler alert: it’ll be more expensive.

The Affordable Care Act instituted minimum coverage requirements, like preventative care. It did not ensure that everyone’s every preference would be paid for.

Dutchess_III's avatar

According to the OP he served 20 years in the armed forces, so one can assume that he has state medical coverage, aka Medicaid.
I’m trying to understand…would he be in the same position 5 years ago, before the ACA was ever mentioned, as he is now?

Also, any “what if” scenarios are welcome. I just don’t quite understand it. If they refuse to “expand” medicaid, how will people who are currently using it be affected? It implies if you don’t expand, it will remain the same as it is now.

Seek's avatar

Medicaid doesn’t automagically cover veterans.
Medicaid covers people with low incomes. The military career has no bearing on medicaid.
And Medicaid does not cover “extras” like prescriptions and home health care.

If he’s enrolled in VA health care, the VA meets the minimum requirements of the ACA.
Apparently, VA health care does cover both short and long term home health care for those who are deemed eligible.
http://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/access/home_health_care.asp

* edit – and yes, same position 5 years ago, if nothing else has changed.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Thank you Seek. This is so damn confusing.

I don’t understand how the ACA affected this individual. Any changes shouldn’t even go into effect until Jan 1.

Seek's avatar

It didn’t. It’s reactionary babbling by people who don’t know what they’re talking about and want someone to blame for their problems.

Dutchess_III's avatar

That was my gut feeling. I just wish I had a better grasp of it all. It’s really confusing!

glacial's avatar

Well, she also thinks that being a pilot gave him brain cancer… it doesn’t sound like she’s the most critical of thinkers.

Besides… Obama.

janbb's avatar

S/he should be covered (or not) under the VA medical coverage. Nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act at all.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Here is what she said: ” Valerie, Roger has medicare and tricare for life…both government insurances. They are starting to implement the programs (as of the fiscal year, Oct 1) in preparation of rolling out the program….in fact ALOT of private insurance groups are following suit.”

Seek's avatar

Shock! Horror! They’re going in business two months early!

This has nothing to do with the fact that Medicaid doesn’t pay for home health care. They never have. This has not changed.

kritiper's avatar

People over a certain age have Medicaid or Medicare. The Republican governors are not expanding Medicaid to those under the normal Medicaid/Medicare age. For example, I qualify for Medicaid but our state will not (as yet) expand the coverage to cover me, so I am SOL. For now. In a couple of years I will be old enough for the standard, old timer’s Medicaid.
I think “she” needs to do more homework on the subject.

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