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[NSFW] Porn is full of it but is it real? See details.

Asked by ETpro (34526points) November 22nd, 2013

Perhaps Anastasia Blue started it. She was a porn star who gave slobbery deep-throat blow jobs on screen with apparent gusto. However it got started, deep throat—with all the concomitant gagging; copious, slippery saliva; and even vomiting—has become a major part of today’s porn. If you find that hard to swallow, just do a Bing video search for “cock gag” or “cock vomit” and turn SafeSearch off. There are cock gagging and vomiting videos for every, ahem… taste. Most show the male being dominant, often slapping the female with his cock and/or hand, grabbing the back of her head forcing his monster cock deep into her throat. Porn even has a word for it, “face fucking”. Some videos have the dominant guy showering verbal insults on his submissive, calling her a slut, a worthless whore, etc. Others feature females who either are, or are doing a great job of acting like they are, willing submissives who get off on the rough treatment and even crave it.

Some of the male-dominant films include thin plots justifying the abuse because she was caught cheating, had been stealing from the guy, or whatever. Whether supposedly justified or simply gratuitous, I presume the thrill for the viewer is in vicarious sadomasochism. Then there are a few films where sadomasochism isn’t involved at all. They instead feature people who genuinely appear to get off on the gagging and even on actually vomiting. I can’t post links here to porn, but if anyone wants to see a Japanese lesbian couple enjoy sharing and then making love in the slithery, slimy outpourings of their mutual deep throating of toys, PM me and I will send you a link.

Now the question. I know there is a real paraphilia called emetophilia and there are those who enjoy it. But my impression is it’s not widespread practice. And yes, I know it’s foolish to expect reality in porn. But you would think that the sex acts depicted would be ones large numbers of people actually do in some shape or form. So just how widespread is this gagging style of deep-throat? Perhaps you know Swim, who is into it? Can you tell us about how Swim does it?

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El_Cadejo's avatar

I love that you used SWIM, reminds me of the good old days of totse :P

For me, this has always been one of those areas of porn that’s bothered me. Deep throat “copious, slippery saliva” that’s all good, but the vomiting bit definitely not, but different strokes for different folks. The part that always bothered me is when it goes in that abusive route. I get the whole sub dom thing but still I feel most porn pushes that line uncomfortably too far for me.

livelaughlove21's avatar

All I know is that I’m definitely not into it. I don’t even like when a guy tries to “guide” my head by pushing on it once I’m down there. It turns me off. I once had a graphic saved on my computer that said, “Let go of my ears. I know what I’m doing.” That’s exactly how I feel about it. If you just lay there and enjoy, I promise you’ll cum and I won’t puke. Everyone wins.

I think it’s probably more common in the BDSM community, but I wouldn’t say it’s “popular” even with them. I could be wrong, as I’m not into BDSM beyond reading about it.

Who enjoys gagging? I can see how some guys might like how it feels or even how it looks (not sure how someone with a beet red face and slobber running down his/her chin is hot, but to each his own), but I can’t imagine the blowjob-giver truly enjoying that. Some people can deep-throat, and kudos to them, but if you’re gagging like that, you can’t fucking do it!

I suspect this is more of a fetish than anything else and, like any other fetish, it’s seen in only a minority of people.

ucme's avatar

My wife’s so hawt I have to dip my beef thermometer in her mouth to check for signs of fever.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

Can’t really know the answer…some people say that’s not how they do blow jobs and some, of course, do blow jobs because that’s what they saw in porn. I do it whatever way, for variety.

Lorna's avatar

My husband likes to fuck my mouth. He will hold my head and thrust into me. He never lasts very long though!

deni's avatar

I think deepthroating is great, holding my head is fine, but the gag reflex is a funny thing….usually mind over matter. and if you start thinking about it, for me at least, the chances of me actually gagging are much higher. Vomiting on a guys dick is something I never want to do, and the percentage of men who actually want that has to be really slim. I know its out there, just like scat play and thick rings through guys dicks and all kinds of weird stuff but i really don’t think its that common in the real world.

mazingerz88's avatar

Real as in porn actors enjoying emetophilia privately @ETpro-? Since the act was even given a name, my guess is it is real but only very few real people actually like doing it. I’ve seen this other act which is far, far…far worse which involves swallowing the…unimaginable. That act was most shocking.

plethora's avatar

I think porn has its own agenda, falls in love with its own agenda, and dreams up acts which will push its own agenda….and, to a large degree, is fueled by the porn incited agenda. It appeals to that 15 year old guy who shortly turns into that 21 year old guy, who 6 years into it (15 to 21) has forgotten whatever was in his head when he was 15 and only knows he loves the gagging sound of a woman getting choked because that’s what he’s been trained on for the previous six years (which is about ⅓ of his life at that point, and is therefore eternity). Oh…..and every sex act, no matter what, has got to have the bump and grind music goin’ on. As one of our younger members said about a year ago, porn is 30 minutes of a guy jamming one end of a female, followed by another 30 minutes of him jamming the other end of a female. Kinda like watching paint dry.

LornaLove's avatar

I actually hate it, I feel that it is degrading to women to be spat on, smacked in the face with a dick and have it shoved down her throat so far she vomits. I feel women have been degraded too long within the realms of porn and this is just another avenue. I also think they have run out of things to do and the more depraved you become the more money you earn.

It seems these days everyone is in porn, from the local waitress down the road to the mother with four kids. To my mind it is the economy. Sure some will say they love been slapped in the face with a cock and called a low down whore. They might even like their hair pulled and puking, but for me it has gone to far.

livelaughlove21's avatar

I dare my husband to slap me in the face with his dick. He might end up losing a ball.

ETpro's avatar

@uberbatman I’m glad you’ve already met Swim. That character gets into some truly bizarre stuff. The abusive aspect is an absolute turn-off to me. I cannot stand to watch that. There may be people doing it consensually, with safe words and all. Course, how much good is a safe word when a cock is down your throat so deep you are gagging on it? If it floats their boat, fine. I just have a fear that most of the porn made showing such abuse is far from consensual. All to often, some porn king promises a wanna-be actress gazillions of dollars if she “passes the screen test” then abuses the hell out of her because she will let him, hoping to grab the brass ring. When he’s gotten off all over her face and in her eyes, that’s it. He’s on to seduce the next “sucker”.

@livelaughlove21 Very understandable. Unless for some reason you actually want to be gagged to the point of throwing up, you want to be in the driver’s seat. You alone know what you can and can’t take.

@ucme I can certainly sympathize with that sentiment.

@Simone_De_Beauvoir And variety is the spice of life. Back when I did them, I felt the same way.

@LornaIove How do you feel about that? Flattered or flustered?

@deni Wow. You’re a trouper, and probably a VERY popular person. I am sure you’re right that the percentage of people (male or female) who get a sexual charge from vomiting or being vomited on has to be tiny. But they are there. I’d guess some bulimics find an interest in it.

@mazingerz88 No, I was more interested in real as what people outside of porn like to do. Just everyday people. Of course, over time, porn is going to influence what they do to some degree. If that “other act” is talking about “Two Chicks, One Cup” there are two things you should know. First, it was faked. Second, it was produced not just to shock, but because there actually are people into that to. That particular paraphilia is called coprophilia, AKA scat of scatophilia.

@plethora At the end of the day, the porn businesses agenda is the same as any other capitalist business, to make a profit. Their challenge is that we humans quickly lose interest in the familiar, and so they must constantly push the envelope of human sexual gymnastics to make their product interesting enough that sales keep growing.

@LornaLove I’m sure most of what we see in porn is based on prior agreement. Even a dominant asshole would be really stupid to jam his cock down an unwilling throat. Lorena Bobbitt forever established how idiotic that move is.

@livelaughlove21 There you go. You’re making the same point I noted here ^^^.

Unbroken's avatar

How many people commonly watch a Shitty show of what their real life is like and enjoy it?

My guess for a few it may be a fantasy they watch unfold, others got bored of whatever kink they were last looking at and a very few will use it as a demo for when they try to enact it.

Me: gagging sucks. Vomiting: I was so thoroughly embarrassed as a child about motion sickness. Endless stories etc, I literally only actually vomit maybe once a year if that as a complete physical necessity, psychokenesis does work to some extent. Even as a binge drinking teenager duck farts were the only thing that caused me to puke.

Is it sexy? Not even remotely. Not for me, ever. The rest: as long as it is playful, there is trust and he will stop and be my bitch as soon as I indicate I want that, is all good in my book.

Haleth's avatar

Wow, 3 AM on the internet leads to some dark and troubling places.

My theory is that it’s a case of addiction and escalating stimulus. There’s probably a real term for that, but I’m not sure what it is. But you know that thing where, when you’re addicted to something, you need increasing amounts of it to get the same results?

So people who may have gotten off on milder variations of this, maybe started to need increasingly extreme stimulus to get the same kick. And when there’s a demand, the internet will provide.

One time when I was working at the sex shop, a dildo fell off a top shelf and hit me on the head. My boss was this hot punk rock lady who was pregnant at the time. It was the kind of workplace where I said she was a MILF and she was like, “aww, thanks, sweetie!” Anyway, boy, did that thing hit me on the head. She said that if a girl does it, it’s fun and ironic. :)

El_Cadejo's avatar

@ETpro Exactly my thoughts. I’ve always been a fan of porn where it’s pretty obvious both parties are having a really good time and enjoying themselves. I tend to find that hotter than any one act personally.

Lorna's avatar

@ETpro He enjoys it, and so it turns me on that he does. I’ve never been sick by it. If he does make me gag, he simply doesn’t thrust as hard for a bit.

emjay's avatar

@LornaIove , yep. My boyfriend is the same way. And I really don’t think it’s that weird.

My feeling is, as long as both people are comfortable with whats going on in the bedroom…. let it happen. lol

Lorna's avatar

Exactly. Better than being plain old, lights off, hurry up, don’t touch me there, boring.

LornaLove's avatar

@ETpro Prior agreement? Not really no. Perhaps watch some documentaries of porn and how females (young) feel obligated almost forced to do the things they don’t want to. Many start with agreements saying they do not do anal, or same sex and within hours at times they are. They are driven to locations and have sets ready and feel really shit to back out at that point. If the industry was that regulated it would be fun and rewarding for women I am sure.

ETpro's avatar

@Unbroken I am a great believer in the old saw, “To each their own.”

@Haleth Wow, 3 AM on the internet leads to some dark and troubling places. Now that’s the truth for sure. I think you are exactly right about “addiction and escalating stimulus”.

@uberbatman I click out of any other kind. I can’t bear to watch. Also anything that is obviously fake is an utter turn-off, even if it’s a kink I personally like. No, particularly if it’s a kink I particularly like.

@LornaLove Outstanding. It sounds like the two of you show mutual respect and understand one another’‘s limits.

@emjay I absolutely agree it’s not weird. You are quite right when you say, “http://www.fluther.com/166311/nsfw-porn-is-full-of-it-but-is-it-real-see/#quip2847185”

@LornaLove You can make documentaries provide proof of pretty much anything you want. Global warming is real. Global warming is a hoax.

I know enough people in the business to know the moralistic documentaries often play loose with the truth. I’m not saying it never happens, just that it’‘s not the rule. Most porn producers feel no need to take such an insane risk.

LornaLove's avatar

@ETpro Their subsequent deaths (from faked HIV tests) and suicides are real. I am sure all men want it all to be real all of the time, so that they can get their jollies off.

ETpro's avatar

@LornaLove If you think you know what a group as large as “all men” want, then we have no basis for discussion. Such a claim is just as patently absurd as misogynistic men chaining they know what all women want.

LornaLove's avatar

@ETpro True my mistake, perhaps tons of the ignorant ones. Pardon me.

ETpro's avatar

I’ll readily agree with you that the shoe you describe fits on lots of men. But “all men” is an incredibly diverse group. Aside from basic functions required of all life, there’s virtually nothing common to all of them.

Over my long and often adventurous lifetime, I happen to have know several people who actually liked to gag on cock, and even one who liked to be gagged to the point of throwing up so long as that was not a turn-off to their partner. This individual ate lots of tums first to neutralize the acid. They liked the sharing of something so personal and verboten, and the slipperiness. They liked to make extended love in the resulting slime. Go figure.

But those are the exceptions that prove the rule. I am with you in thinking that current porn’s fascination with cock gagging is nothing more than an attempt to constantly do something more extreme to satisfy jaded viewers, and it’s a rarity in the real world. I’m sure most porn actresses who are called on to do it are in it for the money alone.

LornaLove's avatar

@ETpro Yes, I should have clarified that ’all men who do watch porn, even pay subscriptions to porn and even some not all men who become addicted to porn wish to believe that all porn is real all of the time.

Much the same as when they male or female visit a hooker and wish that to be real too. I am sure in some cases it is real.

I’m very ‘iffy’ about porn. I love the idea behind it. I love the freedom of it. I do not like the abuse that occurs behind the scenes to both men and women. Most of the time. I am also angry at an economy that has pushed many into this field of work not by choice but because of financial issues.

I do also believe that some women enjoy having a cock shoved down their throat too. What sickens me is that it has become much like everything else, a commodity. It also serves to educate ignorant people of how oral sex should be. Someone grab my head and shove it over their cock then proceed to gag me will get a fist in his balls.

ETpro's avatar

@LornaLove Complete agreement with that. That’s why I asked the question. I hope people watching this stuff realize that while there is a tiny number of people who really enjoy such practices, what they are seeing is almost certainly BS and has nothing remotely to do with real-world love-making.

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