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Is zoosexuality okay?

Asked by Misspegasister28 (2103points) November 14th, 2014

So there’s this “sexuality” called zoosexuality where people are, you guessed it, sexually attracted to animals. Now, in your opinion, is this okay? Should it be legal?

My answer is no. No, zoosexuality is not okay. If you like to masturbate to furry porn or videos of animals having sex, fine. Whatever. That’s what you like, it’s not hurting your or anyone else so that’s fine. What I do not like is when zoosexuals actually have sex with animals. Animals cannot consent, from what I’ve heard they do not experience pleasure during sex like humans do, therefore, it’s rape and abuse. I find this extremely disgusting and I do not like that some people are trying to find ways to make this abuse okay.

What do you think? Is zoosexuality okay? Should it be included in the LGBT community? Can animals consent? Should it be legal? I’d love to hear your thoughts!

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Mimishu1995's avatar

Even if you aren’t concern about the animals, zoosexuality can be dangerous to you. Having sex with horses for example can cause ruptures and bleeding and possible death. So no, it isn’t OK. Banning it is beneficial to both human and animals.

SavoirFaire's avatar

Insofar as zoosexuality is just a set of attractions, it just is what it is. It makes no sense to criminalize the desire. Insofar as it involves actually having sex with animals—a practice that is more often referred to as bestiality—I agree that it would involve forcing oneself onto a sentient being that cannot consent, and would thus be unacceptable.

Misspegasister28's avatar

@SavoirFaire That’s what I was thinking. Being attracted to animals is okay, but it’s absolutely not okay when one actually performs sexual acts with animals. I know people who are furries and happen to be sexually attracted to animals, but they believe that bestiality is wrong, and I agree with them.

zenvelo's avatar

The most open, liberal, anything goes sex expert there is, Dan Savage, has two not at all allowed:

Children.
Animals.

And it’s for the same reason in many ways: animals can’t consent.

wsxwh111's avatar

According to a public class from Stanford based on what is moral, if one act can be adopted to all the other same situations happening is very important when it comes to the defination of morality.
On one hand, I do think this thing doesn’t harm others, so we may focus on the “zoosexuality” men and the animal involved. I think it’s better to get to know these people——-can this so-called “sexual attraction towards animals” be changed or be replaced by other sexual attractions? How much it will trouble the person if he is banned on this? When it comes to the animals… I think it hard to say. After all, people kill animals every day.

ragingloli's avatar

As much as it is ok to kill animals for food.

johnpowell's avatar

Should it be included in the LGBT community?

This is such Santorum bullshit. 99.999% of the LGBT hates raping animals too. You are a fuckhead for trying to combine two totally seperate things together.

marinelife's avatar

The animals cannot give consent. It is sexually unnatural for them. It is abusive.

filmfann's avatar

This question may be a bit controversial, because I have been told several contributors are fucking jackasses.

jerv's avatar

@filmfann Well, the anti-gay crowd considers anyone who doesn’t share their bias to be pure evil, while those who oppose them are so sick and tired of the whole “slippery slope” fallacy equating homosexuality with necropedobestiality (yes, sex with dead baby animals) that tempers tend to flare.

While I think this was a well-meant question (no malice), I think it was poorly phrased enough to unintentionally cause MUCH offense. Of course, that assumption is based on the assumption that the OP’s profile (16yr old girl from Colorado) is true…

Coloma's avatar

No. It is abusive to the animal that cannot consent.
Seriously, WTF is WRONG with people, just stick to screwing your own species or yourself.
I will admit my pet goose masturbates with the garden hose in his pool, sometimes I position it just right so he can achieve satisfaction. He shrieks and falls over and then stands up really tall and flaps his wings. lol

SecondHandStoke's avatar

This lover of animals has seen a handful of horse and dog videos on Reddit.

Animal sex would not work for me because sexual intimacy must be profoundly psychological for me. It’s obvious to me the animals in the videos aren’t capable of this. I need eye contact and lots of it dammit.

As for consent from the animal is concerned it’s debatable. Animals clearly are capable of consent. I don’t think it parallels the issue with the consent of a minor human.

/r/sexwithdogs did cause me to wonder about myself for a moment:

A guy had posted that he was totally in love with his dog. It read like he was in love with another human.

I scrolled down to a photo of his partner and suddenly thought to myself “his dog isn’t really that attractive.”

What the hell is wrong with me?

Wildlife is state property. I do believe it should be illegal to have sex with it.

LGBTZ. LOL.

LornaLove's avatar

This is just another reason I am wondering whom exactly I am sharing the planet with.

ragingloli's avatar

When a dog is in heat, it means it wants sex. That is my excuse.

Misspegasister28's avatar

@johnpowell The only reason I asked whether or not it should be included in the LGBT community is because I have seen several zoosexuals saying that zoosexuality should be included.

jerv's avatar

I’m still wondering how we prove consent with animals anyways. Between some people retroactively revoking consent for blackmail/revenge reasons (or being just plain nuts), alcohol, and other shenanigans, we can’t even prove consent with adult humans!

Berserker's avatar

It’s not ok, this shouldn’t even be a debate.

livelaughlove21's avatar

“Should it be included in the LGBT community?”

Please tell me you’re kidding. That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard in awhile.

No, animals cannot give consent. No, people should probably not fuck animals. Is bestiality not illegal already?

Misspegasister28's avatar

@livelaughlove21 I don’t think it should for the very reason that animals cannot consent (physically saying “yes” to sex and understanding what it means). I’ve just seen multiple zoosexuals say that it should be included because they are an “oppressed” sexuality.

I also know a lot of LGBT people who are furious about this. The LGBT community receives enough crap as it is.

Coloma's avatar

@Misspegasister28 Whose oppressed sexually, the animals or the LGBT community? lol
Seriously, this is so obvious as to not even warrant a discussion. If nature wanted us to fuck dogs and donkeys we would have been born dogs and donkeys too. haha
A dog may hump your leg out of instinct and sheer animal drive, but humans can control their base instincts, if we go around humping strangers on a subway we are not going to be able to claim we just couldn’t help ourselves.

Misspegasister28's avatar

@Coloma Oh, zoosexuals claim they’re oppressed because bestiality is illegal.
THANK YOU. Animals can’t consent because they can’t freely choose to say “yes”. Also, animals have sex out of instinct. If they did not have sex, their species would come to an end. I don’t think they necessarily enjoy it, though. When a dog humps your leg, it’s because he feels the biological need to reproduce, not necessarily get pleasure from it. I don’t know.

Coloma's avatar

@Misspegasister28 Crazy extremists…gah, off with their heads. lol

ragingloli's avatar

Animals can not consent to being slaughtered by the millions annually either.
The only form of industrialised genocide that is still legal, and that makes the holocaust look like a picnic.

Misspegasister28's avatar

@ragingloli That’s true. The treatment of animals who are raised to be slaughtered is awful, too.

ragingloli's avatar

Point being, the fact that animals can not consent is NOT the actual reason why bestiality is illegal or frowned upon.
If that were true, everyone would be a vegetarian by law, as killing animals for food would be illegal.
It is not about the animal. Nobody cares about the welfare of the animal. The indifference to the industrial killing machine that is the meat industry, and the outright ridicule and hatred levelled against vegetarians and vegans proves that.
It is about sex with animals being “icky”.

Misspegasister28's avatar

@ragingloli I can’t argue with that.

Coloma's avatar

@ragingloli You have a point, true, however, do Gazelles consent to being killed by Lions? Do Penguins consent to being eaten by Seals? It is not about the morality of eating an animal it is about the ethics behind it’s rearing and final moments.

The sexuality being talked about here is about the natural fact that different species do not engage in sexual exchanges. Not in nature and not between the human species and others.
Animals kill each other in the wild, but they do not fornicate outside their own kind.

Misspegasister28's avatar

@Coloma That’s true also. And slaughtered animals are supposed to be killed in quick, humane ways, and are supposed to be raised in humane ways too. Unfortunately, too often they are not.

ragingloli's avatar

@Coloma
“The sexuality being talked about here is about the natural fact that different species do not engage in sexual exchanges. Not in nature and not between the human species and others.”
Actually, they do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sexual_behaviour#Cross_species_sex

rojo's avatar

I’m ok with it among consenting mammals, I draw the line at intergenus’ sex.

Coloma's avatar

@ragingloli Well, it can occur but it is based on primal instinct/desire not the same as humans lusting after more and more stimulus simply because they are depraved and not able to be satisfied with human partners. Hey, my goose masturbates with the garden hose in his pool but I am not going to jerk him off. That would be goose abuse. lol

Brian1946's avatar

How about cross-kingdom sex? Many aboreaphiles are not only tree-huggers, but also tree-humpers. The ground wasn’t the only place where famous forest-fucker, Johnny Appleseed, was planting his seed. ;-o

Berserker's avatar

Everything @ragingloli says is all true, althought I would point out that it wouldn’t be called ’‘genocide’’ or ’‘slaughter’’ if those words depended on consent to exist. Including that, I suppose one could say it’s ok to fuck a cow if you were gonna kill it after, since either way you don’t care about its well being. Nasty logic if you stop to think about it for a second.

However, if animals are going to be killed for food, there is absolutely no reason to make them suffer or stress them out by raping them.

And yes, fucking outside your species is ’‘icky’’, as much for the human as for the animal. Diseases, injuries, infections, what’s to not understand? Granted, that also happens between humans, so my point is pretty moot. Even so, no amount of antropomorphic My Little Poney porn is going to convince me otherwise, especially when furrydom has actually very little to do with real beastiality.

And lol Coloma, goose abuse. XD

Coloma's avatar

@Symbeline There is My Little Pony Porn? really? haha

Misspegasister28's avatar

@Symbeline, @Coloma Oh God, My Little Pony porn. I’m part of that fandom (as my username suggests), I personally don’t enjoy “clop”. There’s quite a lot of it too. I stay with the more appropriate fans, the ones who enjoy the show for its lessons about friendship and the ones who make really cool SFW fanart, fanfiction and fanmusic.

Also, yes, furries have a stereotype of being into bestiality and stuff. Which for the most part, isn’t true. Furries are pretty cool and creative people.

What I believe is that it’s fine to enjoy pony and animal porn, but it crosses the line when you actually try to have sex with real animals.

Coloma's avatar

@Misspegasister28 I agree. Fantasy is not the same as actual action.

ragingloli's avatar

@Coloma
There is porn of everything.

Misspegasister28's avatar

@ragingloli Rule 34 of the Internet states that if it exists, there is porn of it.

ragingloli's avatar

And if it does not exist, someone will invariably create it.

Coloma's avatar

@ragingloli I guess so, I don’t go looking for porn, I’m the old broad now and My Little Pony was the toys my daughter played with 20 years ago. Is nothing sacred anymore? lol

Misspegasister28's avatar

@Coloma Exactly why I try to avoid MLP porn. MLP is the only thing left innocent in my life haha.

johnpowell's avatar

@Misspegasister28 :: Great.. The horse vagina lovers want to be in the LGBT community. Problem is they aren’t wanted in the the LGBT community. They are freaks and can fuck right off.

Here is Sanatorum:...

When Jordan asked “Okay, without being too gory or graphic, so if somebody is homosexual, you would argue that they should not have sex?” Santorum stated:[4]

In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality.

The AP also quoted Santorum as saying, “If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything.” and “Whether it’s polygamy, whether it’s adultery, whether it’s sodomy, all of those things, are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family.”[1]

Coloma's avatar

Stay away from my mares here! lol Running down to put on their blankets with the ass strap. haha

talljasperman's avatar

So thats why John Arbuckle could never get a date. He really loved Odie and Odie couldn’t talk so the only witness was Garflied. So John bribed the cat with lasnga until he died of diabetes.

Coloma's avatar

—@talljasperman Haha, very good!-

wsxwh111's avatar

@marinelife @Coloma @Misspegasister28 @ragingloli
OP should really make it clear.. Do you want to ask others’ attitude towards this topic, or do you really want to know if it should be defined morality. I’d rather assume the latter one.
In that assumption, many guys here, no offense, are just giving the conclusion based on their own preference, which is, actually human nature. They are just giving out “their personal attitude towards this topic”, which means they are actually saying “I’m for/against this thing (emotionally)”. And humans find all kinds of “reasons” (make or don’t make sense) to defend their “emotional preferences”.
But, when it comes to a define of morality, if we do want to discuss one issue completely and rigorously, we have to find what the REAL benefit or harm of the issue, something more than “this thing makes ME uncomfortable.”
This thing makes animal go extinct? SOUNDS LIKE anti-gay groups say“GAY LET HUMAN RACE GO EXTINCT.” After all, there are so many animals on the planet and these people are relatively rare.
Animals can’t refuse? DO YOU ASK AN ANIMAL’S OPINION BEFORE YOU KILL IT?
I’m not saying this thing is moral, I just assume if we really want to talk it out, we should find logical reasons that make sense.

Mimishu1995's avatar

I think she is only asking for others’ attitude. I don’t see anything sounds like she wants to know about its morality.

Or maybe I’m being too neutral here

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Let’s see, killing an animal against its will is more right than having sex with an animal against its will that is still living when the human is done with it; yeah, that make perfect sense. Going of the evolution side of it, humans rule the roost with our superior brains, so animals are at the disposal of smarter humans in anything humans want to do to them, use them in circuses, make purses and belts from them, eat them, deep fry them, anything a human desires. Might even be a step in evolution like way back when where humans came from apes or subhuman, or whatever “it” was.

The reasons why I say it is wrong, is really not my reasons, but no one wants to give credence to that reason; so without that, all is good, whatever makes your gondola rise.
Let’s see, killing an animal against its will is more right than having sex with an animal against its will that is still living when the human is done with it; yeah, that make perfect sense. Going of the evolution side of it, humans rule the roost with our superior brains, so animals are at the disposal of smarter humans in anything humans want to do to them, use them in circuses, make purses and belts from them, eat them, deep fry them, anything a human desires. Might even be a step in evolution like way back when where humans came from apes or subhuman, or whatever “it” was.

The reasons why I say it is wrong, is really not my reasons, but no one wants to give credence to that reason; so without that, all is good, whatever makes your gondola rise.

SecondHandStoke's avatar

Clop.

Just clop.

Also. Multiple GAs to @ragingloli in this thread.

gondwanalon's avatar

No.
Excuse me while I vomit.

Berserker's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I’ll just drop a GA on that since prolly no else will. Also check your shit before submitting answes, you totally Basketcased your answer. XD

Here2_4's avatar

What boggles my mind is that so many found so much to say about the subject.

Coloma's avatar

As I said, animals kill other animals for food, but they do not perpetrate crime and cruelties on each other willfully. Humans can choose, animals act on instinct in the moment, be that sexual or to feed themselves. The Lion may eat the Gazelle but it does not rape it first.
We may eat the cow but we should not rape it either.

The logic here in the ability for the human animal to make choices above and beyond base instinct.

Berserker's avatar

Lol I’m telling HC to double check his stuff yet there’s a typo in my answer haha.

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