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elbanditoroso's avatar

Which CIA-approved torture would you prefer to be used on yourself?

Asked by elbanditoroso (28883points) December 10th, 2014

Anal hydration?

Water boarding?

Salt pit solitary?

How has America sunk to this level?

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SquirrelEStuff's avatar

I prefer to be tortured by the constant devaluation of our dollar due to a debt-based economic system.
How did America sink to it’s current level? I think George Carlin hit the nail on the head.
“When you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you get selfish, ignorant leaders.”

LuckyGuy's avatar

I’ll take any of them over beheading.

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keobooks's avatar

Sounds like a really fancy resort spa. Do you have a special package where I can try all three for one low price?

BeenThereSaidThat's avatar

personally I would take any of those so called tortures if I were one of the 3,000 people murdered on 911. I think the hundreds of people who jumped from the towers to get away from the flames would be happy to have any of those choices.

luckyguy seems to “get it”. chopping heads off, burying people alive, killing and raping children? nope I have no problem with what the CIA did and neither did the Democrats at the time. Now they are throwing dirt at their own country since the Rebulicans will be taking over the Congress in a few weeks and the Dems are royally pissed. Sour Grapes.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@keobooks – yes, we have a Caribbean Resort location on the southeast side of Cuba – it’s called the Marriott Guantanamo. We have special packages for long term stays.

There’s a special program for people wanting to lose weight. It’s the Guantanamo Starvation Plan. It’s economical, because no meals are included.

ragingloli's avatar

“How has America sunk to this level?”
Because many people are fine with it.
Because many people think even the most horrible crimes against others are justified as long as they believe themselves to be “the good guys”.
They could be opening extermination camps tomorrow to eradicate the muslim population, and I can guarantee you that many people, even some here on Fluther, will say “they deserve it”.
If there is one attribute that defines humanity, that is a constant throughout history, it is barbarism.

zenvelo's avatar

@BeenThereSaidThat Senator John McCain disagrees with you:

“I have long believed some of these practices amounted to torture, as a reasonable person would define it, especially, but not only the practice of waterboarding, which is a mock execution and an exquisite form of torture. Its use was shameful and unnecessary; and, contrary to assertions made by some of its defenders and as the Committee’s report makes clear, it produced little useful intelligence to help us track down the perpetrators of 9/11 or prevent new attacks and atrocities.

“I know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners will produce more bad than good intelligence. I know that victims of torture will offer intentionally misleading information if they think their captors will believe it. I know they will say whatever they think their torturers want them to say if they believe it will stop their suffering. Most of all, I know the use of torture compromises that which most distinguishes us from our enemies, our belief that all people, even captured enemies, possess basic human rights, which are protected by international conventions the U.S. not only joined, but for the most part authored.

BeenThereSaidThat's avatar

I could not care less what John McCain thinks. He has long past his(should be) retirement in representing the people of Arizona. He thrives on being the so called Maverick. I point out the The McCain-Feingold Act, Public Law 107–155

zenvelo's avatar

@BeenThereSaidThat So you condone torture, even though it doesn’t do any good. I guess you can tell service men and women that it’s okay for them to be tortured because we do it too.

BeenThereSaidThat's avatar

and you have proof “that torture doesn’t do any good”? You have no clue how many major terrorists attacks have been aborted. attacks that you know nothing about sitting in the comfort of your home on your computer. done…..

janbb's avatar

@BeenThereSaidThat I don’t have the citations but it’s been pretty well documented that torture doesn’t produce valid information as @zenvelo and John McCain have stated above.

In addition to the fact that suspects being tortured will give any information to make it stop, we often are torturing the wrong suspects. Also, it is inhumane and against the Geneva Conventions which we have agreed to.

tinyfaery's avatar

This is a tacky question.

janbb's avatar

@BeenThereSaidThat Here’s a relevant article on interrogation techniques and what is effective and what is not. Let’s see if you are open-minded enough to rethink your position.

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flutherother's avatar

America sank to this level because the President thought he was above the law, the law of the United States as well as international law and everyone thought he was right. It is strange because when Nixon said something similar he was laughed at and discredited.

YARNLADY's avatar

I heard on the news they also used diapers as a punishment. I’ll take that one – since am already experiencing it.

filmfann's avatar

McCain’s statement was like a crazy Uncle who says something breathtakingly sane after years of nonsense.
If this report wasn’t released today, the Republicans would have buried it.

FireMadeFlesh's avatar

I don’t think America sank to this level – it was always at that level, and improved accountability and access to information has just made it more visible. Torture has been an unfortunate part of human interactions as long as there have been humans.

cJHunsinger's avatar

It would seem that the question is designed to inspire some form of quilt and disdain for America. I think however, that it only speaks to the naivety and, perhaps, altruism of the author.
The better questions would be; what steps should America take to secure herself and her people? What steps should be taken to secure one’s family against those who would bring it harm? Is America, the Constitution and her people worth saving and to what length should we go to ensure that end? My answer, as a combat vet and a proud American Constitutionalist, any means necessary.

ragingloli's avatar

“Its not enough to survive… One has to be worthy of survival.”
– Commander William Adama
Once you start torturing people, you are no longer worthy of survival.

zenvelo's avatar

@cJHunsinger As “a proud American Constitutionalist,” you might consider that torture is unconstitutional.

Unless you feel that the Constitution only applies to those who haven’t done anything wrong or said anything out of line or haven’t prayed at the wrong house of worship.

And, as a combat vet, I guess you are okay with warriors from either side getting tortured, because if we do it, it must be alright to do.

Welcome to Fluther.

filmfann's avatar

@ragingloli Adama was responsible for torturing, as well.

spykenij's avatar

How is this question tacky? It’s completely valid to wonder how things got to this point, even if it wasn’t somewhat sarcastic. People are comfortable and most turn a blind eye to others with problems like homelessness, poverty, sickness and the persecution of the innocent. That’s why so many people just keep to themselves and their own. Funds to charities are often misappropriated. Oh and downright human greed. That’s how we got here. I’d take the salt pit solitary.

flutherother's avatar

At the time 79% approved of the Salem witch trials.

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