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What new question would you expect to cause the most activity on Fluther?

Asked by ibstubro (18765points) December 28th, 2014

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Aethelwine's avatar

Ask if Fluther has to devolve

ragingloli's avatar

“Why do you liberals hate freedom?”

linguaphile's avatar

What’s the point of believing in ___?

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Something that most people are passionate about, children, politics, and religion spark a great deal of responses, but a lot of time it just turns into a flame war when peoples opinion differ.

Myself I am so sick of the less fortunate being exploited by the wealthy,but then I am told that is just the way things are in life get used to it.
The rich pigs just keep getting richer and all the rest of us must pay for their way of life.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@ragingloli and what is freedom, is it what the conservatives tells us,or want us to believe??

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

If all sex is just sex and not sin of any kind, why isn’t all sex just sex no matter with whom or what?

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central interesting but most peoples upbringing don’t see it that way due to commitment to ones spouse, or religious beliefs.

JLeslie's avatar

You never know. I have asked questions that didn’t have any controversy and received many many answers. You would think the most controversial would get the most answers, but not always.

I love when I ask what I think is a pretty straight forward Q and then get all sorts of interesting answers and the discussion goes places I didn’t expect.

Berserker's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central It is. If you have sex with a child, it’s sex, if you fuck a big ol’ camel, it’s sex. It’s disgusting shit, but it’s sex. I mean, when speaking of definitions. Morally it’s something else, and rightfully so. My examples are sick shit.
As you can see then, not all sex is just sex, am I right?

Also I’m pretty sure I’ve never said the word sex so many times in one answer.

Blackberry's avatar

The same question is literally below yours.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

I know I put mine up first in meta, then @ibstubro put his up in social and then it was moved over here, no big deal.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Symbeline You know that’s not what he’s asking. He’s asking why homosexuality has become culturally acceptable, while pedophilia and bestiality have not.

ucme's avatar

Fluther will be shut down permanently in 24hrs, what will be your final post?

Berserker's avatar

@dappled_leaves I kind of figured, but since he didn’t actually say that, I saw it as open field towards everything, sans religion or politics.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Symbeline Indeed, religious sex and political sex are categories in their own right. ;)

dxs's avatar

“Why does ibstubro keep asking questions like this?”

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@dxs does it bother you that he does?

dxs's avatar

@SQUEEKY2 To answer in my generation’s tongue: It’s whatever.

talljasperman's avatar

What are your favorite flame wars from other sites?

longgone's avatar

Why is this site full of arrogant dicks?

How do I stop my neighbous from butting in when I smack my kid?

My wife is acting up. How do I get her to treat me with the respect women owe men?

How come the mods deleted my post just because I don’t like niggers?

Fluther will be shut down unless this thread gets 500 responses – will you help?

janbb's avatar

Who are the most arrogant know-it-alls on Fluther? :-P

ragingloli's avatar

*omnicient and confident.

janbb's avatar

@ragingloli Why – how nice of you to say so!

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@SQUEEKY2 […interesting but most peoples upbringing don’t see it that way due to commitment to ones spouse, or religious beliefs.
I was looking at it from a purely logical, scientific, non-belief or religious sense, which would make it just cause and effect, no different from the wind or fire.

@Symbeline As you can see then, not all sex is just sex, am I right?
It is if you are looking at it with purely logical eyes taking any deity out of it that might punish you for such. All sex is just sex, the same as wind is just wind. Wind can be of a benefit, a cool breeze on a hot day, pushing your sloop along the coast line, running your electric wind generator. It can also be a disadvantage, blowing the birdseed from your feeder, blowing the roof from your house or blowing the aging oak onto your house. The wind does what the wind does, it is only how one experiences it as to if they say or was good or bad, the wind has no preference or motive. All you mentioned is in a scientific, logical, mechanical sense, just sex, how people choose to view it is the only thing that determines bad or good; unless you have some other formula that takes human thought out of it you want to introduce?

@dappled_leaves You know that’s not what he’s asking. He’s asking why homosexuality has become culturally acceptable, while pedophilia and bestiality have not.
Never came to mind, actually, but you can ask that one.

ibstubro's avatar

@dxs “Why does ibstubro keep asking questions like this?”
Source? Examples?

Is it a problem that people are polling Jellies as to the types of questions they would most likely respond to? Increase traffic?

“Why does ibstubro keep asking questions like this?”
Because ibstubro would do anything in his power to boost Fluther and give it a few more days/weeks/months.

I don’t have an agenda inasmuch as I wish that the Fluther agenda continue.

dxs's avatar

@ibstubro Case in point.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@ibstubro “Because ibstubro would do anything in his power to boost Fluther and give it a few more days/weeks/months.”

It is genuinely difficult to recognize this in your bleak questions about Fluther’s future.

Berserker's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I don’t understand why you’re using wind as a comparison to sex and its morality. Wind is some natural thing we have no control over, whereas sex is a conscious decision. For the current practice of this conversation, I understand your point, but I fail to see the relevance.

All you mentioned is in a scientific, logical, mechanical sense, just sex, how people choose to view it is the only thing that determines bad or good; unless you have some other formula that takes human thought out of it you want to introduce?

First, I didn’t just use cold fact and logic, although I will assume you think as such because I’m an atheist. I mentioned morality. Fucking kids is wrong because you hurt them for life, and fucking animals is wrong, because you’re hurting them, and you can hurt yourself, too.
Mind you, perfectly socially accepted sex can hurt people too, not denying it. Now said morality is not writ in stone, but I believe that fucking kids and animals is wrong. There are facts to prove this, oh no, them nasty facts again…My middle name is Marie, so mary mary quite contrary…

Second, how one chooses to view it, well I don’t see how you do it any differently.

It is if you are looking at it with purely logical eyes taking any deity out of it that might punish you for such.

No. I’m starting to wonder if I might not be the religious one here lol.

ibstubro's avatar

Respectfully, @dappled_leaves, how is this question viewed negatively?

Unlike @SQUEEKY2‘s question, this is not a hypothetical. It’s an encouragement – an admonition if you will – for members to be more active. I read one question as “How can I/we ask questions that generate more answers?” and the other as ” Go, now, and ask a question that YOU think is fun/thought provoking/etc.!”

If they are duplicate questions then, pardon my French, where the FUCK are the moderators? Why all the whining? Isn’t that what a flag is for?

Look at the uptick in questions asked. Who’s to say this question didn’t generate a little traffic?

Aethelwine's avatar

We are slower than usual now because of the holidays. Everyone is busy, including the moderators. It’s not the end of Fluther.

ibstubro's avatar

I don’t know how that ever even entered this discussion, @jonsblond.
The intent of the question, if you look at it objectively, is exactly the opposite.

I simply wanted everyone to ask a question that they thought would generate a lot of answers.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Symbeline I don’t understand why you’re using wind as a comparison to sex and its morality.
I cannot see why you can’t. Simply taking sex as some biological act where there is no supernatural punishment for doing it, or doing it out of proper protocol, it is no different than wind, rain, a handgun or anything else. Regardless of whether one has the choice to do or not do it, it would just be the means to an end. A handgun is just a handgun, what is used for it can be viewed good or bad as determined by the person that uses it. Just because 5,000 people choose to believe robbing someone with a handgun is wrong, and 30 people believe it is a good way to make money doesn’t change the fact that a handgun is just a handgun, or how it was used. People decided if the usage was good or bad. So, wind is the same, if it moves your sailing vessel and helps, wind is good, if wind is fierce enough to rip off your roof, wind is bad. To the bear, the elk, the eagle wind is just wind, it is neither good nor bad.

First, I didn’t just use cold fact and logic, although I will assume you think as such because I’m an atheist.
I did not assume, furthermore, as much as atheist don’t like faith matters, they cannot fully embrace logic and fact, I expect as much.

I mentioned morality.
That is the thing, it is irrelevant, in the construct of man being the supreme being, it is off his whim of what is good or bad when everything really just is.

No. I’m starting to wonder if I might not be the religious one here lol
That would be an interesting plot twist, wouldn’t it? But, not quite, because you are applying rule with no author, in the construct of man being the superior being. If it has an author one can’t attach to fallible man, then it might have teeth. What you purport as right and wrong comes just from what men think is right and wrong and not from some higher entity making it spiritual or religion. ;-)

Aethelwine's avatar

My answer was in response to your post before mine. It appears that you think Fluther is slow right now and I shared a reason why it is slow.

where the FUCK are the moderators?” Everyone is busy, including the moderators.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@ibstubro “Respectfully, @dappled_leaves, how is this question viewed negatively?”

I don’t view this specific question negatively, except that it is a virtual restating of @SQUEEKY2‘s question. When the mods fully return to duty, perhaps it will be deleted as a repeat. Your question, as you say here, is not really a question at all. It is a rude demand.

I was referring to many, many other questions you have asked about the state of Fluther, such as the recent, starkly poetic, “Do you give a shit about Fluther?” You are trying to say here that these questions indicate that you love Fluther, but they leave exactly the opposite impression. I don’t believe that you can be unaware of this, given the responses you typically receive on these questions, and the fact that people have told you repeatedly that such questions could actually have the effect of causing its demise.

where the FUCK are the moderators?

Well, you know where they are. The same answer applies to your “where the FUCK are the questions?” as well. They are trying desperately to relax in the few moments afforded by the end-of-the-year holiday. Have you forgotten that the mods are unpaid volunteers? Why on earth would you throw a hissy fit about a lack of moderation on December 30? Do you live in a bubble? Is this your first year here?

Be a mensch. Stop screaming at people whose company you claim to enjoy, for not volunteering their time and effort on your schedule. Then maybe people will start to enjoy your company.

ibstubro's avatar

@dappled_leaves, I much prefer to get along with you, so I’ll answer generally.
Your perception was that I duplicated @SQUEEKY2‘s question. I disagree. One was a question about advice on asking questions, the other a passionate call for jellies to ask their best questions.

This is not a social site. Previous questions and answers are not relevant to the question posed.

The moderators have been present and accounted for in the past few days. Posting.

Quit screaming. Please.

Berserker's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central
I cannot see why you can’t. Simply taking sex as some biological act where there is no supernatural punishment for doing it, or doing it out of proper protocol, it is no different than wind, rain, a handgun or anything else.

Yes it is different, and I told you why; because wind is a natural thing that we do not control, whereas sex is. It comes from us, wind doesn’t. Plus where did you even get the idea that I view sex as some mindless, non conscious thing people do? I didn’t. In fact the whole point of my post was that it isn’t. Under definition it is, (as in, it is sex, that doesn’t mean it causes no ripples, or that such ripples cannot have tangible effects which affect our lives) I added that morally, it isn’t. Just fucking baby camels wasn’t my point.
For example, rape is wrong, I don’t need a god or He Man to tell me that.

You’re using whatever examples you want to dismiss any point I’m trying to make. Wind, guns, what’s next, racing cars? There is a sense of morality behind people doing things, and I agree that nothing confirms it, thing is, you’re religious, and faith confirms it for you, so I don’t see why this is hard to understand? Nothing proves anything for you, either.

That is the thing, it is irrelevant, in the construct of man being the supreme being, it is off his whim of what is good or bad when everything really just is.

Well don’t blame me if pain and sorrow are real, caused by people, and that I recognize it.

I did not assume, furthermore, as much as atheist don’t like faith matters, they cannot fully embrace logic and fact, I expect as much.

What the hell are you talking about? First you’re accusing me of using nothing but fact and logic to back up my argument, and then you’re saying I don’t know how to fully recognize such elements?

That would be an interesting plot twist, wouldn’t it? But, not quite, because you are applying rule with no author, in the construct of man being the superior being.

I am not applying rule, but rather perception. which is pretty much what you’ve been going on about this whole time But I don’t see how you can deny the consequence of something as having no merit when stuff we do obviously affects people.
Also I have never said that man is the superior being. I do not claim this.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Symbeline […because wind is a natural thing that we do not control, whereas sex is.
Sex is a natural thing too. If one can produce it themselves, or it is just a part of the environment is irrelevant. I can control a handgun, but the gun itself is just a tool, weapon, machine, however one wants to view it. Sex is sex, yes, it is people that choose, or not how they apply it or react to it.

For example, rape is wrong, I don’t need a god or He Man to tell me that
For you that is true, that doesn’t mean that if another didn’t agree they are wrong and you are right. Someone might think if they can take a person sexually and the other person cannot resist then it is OK, but also right. How many times have that happened on a societal or even a government level in history’s past?

There is a sense of morality behind people doing things, and I agree that nothing confirms it, thing is, you’re religious, and faith confirms it for you, so I don’t see why this is hard to understand?
It isn’t, I understand it clearly. Because I know where my boundaries come from and who is the author of it, I can understand why killing, stealing, rape and pillaging, etc. is wrong. What you, and maybe others agree, is just the whim of men. Because you can’t say your way is right and theirs are wrong, because how would you do so, because of sheer numbers, the more number there are it has to be correct? How many times in history’s past has the masses gotten it wrong? Superior number are not all conclusive, so how can you prove your way is the correct way over someone else’s taking away the only gambit of superior numbers?

Well don’t blame me if pain and sorrow are real, caused by people, and that I recognize it.
I don’t, in fact I think it should be an example to everyone. If we all were concerned with the suffering and pain of others as if they were our own family what a better world this would be.

What the hell are you talking about? First you’re accusing me of using nothing but fact and logic to back up my argument, and then you’re saying I don’t know how to fully recognize such elements?
Simply put, even if you want to take God out of the equation and go off just what man thinks he developed the stamp God put in the world always makes it known. Morality is not a scientific or measurable fact. Morality in the cause of nature is irrational. If nature used morality the mama tiger would feel remorse for stealing that springbok’s son for that evening’s meal. The law of nature is a logical one, big fish eat little fish and the smallest fish does what it can to duck, dodge and hide in order not to be dinner for the bigger fish.

But I don’t see how you can deny the consequence of something as having no merit when stuff we do obviously affects people.
I would not deny what actions we do can and often has some effect over others, good or bad. However aside from any superior being, they are just actions. Only people of a given group determine if those actions are positive or negative.

Also I have never said that man is the superior being. I do not claim this.
No you did not. To me it is the default position if there is nothing greater than man. I ask you, do you believe there is something out there greater than mankind, and if so what? Secondly, if whatever is out there has no influence or interaction with mankind, is it really relevant, it would still make man his own superior being.

Kardamom's avatar

Uh, I just tiptoed in here, to get out of the cold. Can I fix anyone a snack? If so, what would you like?

ibstubro's avatar

Spinach artichoke dip for me, @Kardamom. With corn chips.

Oh, and a little fried cheese, if you feel so inclined.

Kardamom's avatar

Here’s a super cheesy Artichoke Dip for you, sir. And some Fried Cheese

I hope my response wasn’t too cheesy, yuk yuk : )

ibstubro's avatar

lol. I bought 95 pounds of grated Parmesan last week. 5# for $4 so I bought 19 of them and have parceled all but 15# out.

ibstubro's avatar

OMG that fried cheese looks WONDERFUL!

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