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richardhenry's avatar

Fluther was incorporated as Fluther, Inc. on the 1st of September 2007 in the State of California, is listing number C2942609 and is listed as active. Fluther, Inc. was registered by the wonderful Benjamin Finkel.

The registered address is 243 Fillmore Street, San Francisco, CA 94117.


richardhenry's avatar

Oh, and yes, being incorporated means that Fluther is EVIL now. :p

bugmenot's avatar

How is it evil?

richardhenry's avatar

It was a joke. :)

bugmenot's avatar

But how is it evil?

arnbev959's avatar

Evil corporations.

bugmenot's avatar

ok, sorry. Hey petethepothead. Why did you make your profile like that?

It used to say that the user Beast is a lying hypocrite.

arnbev959's avatar

I was going to not use the computer for a week but I caved.

Zaku's avatar

Ah, but what is the purpose of the corporation?

jcs007's avatar

If you search for the question about corporate morality, then according to most of those answers, Fluther has no morals. O_O

Knotmyday's avatar

Moral-less. Aloof.
eeevil shenanigans

susanc's avatar

I asked this because most of us think Fluther’s un-evil, and it interests me to present (with richardhenry’s help) the spectre of an un-evil corporation,
as food for thought.

richardhenry's avatar

Anything can be evil. Fluther, Inc. probably isn’t one of those things.

robmandu's avatar

You know what is evil? People suing your company for nary a good reason, and because you neglected to incorporate, they waltz off with all of your personal assets.

Incorporation separates Fluther’s assets from Ben’s own personal ones. If Fluther gets burned down thru legal channels, Ben gets to keep his house, his car, and his cat.

richardhenry's avatar

@robmandu: Sweet, that’s good to know! Now I can feel good about suing Fluther for wasting my time by existing. God damn you Fluther.

Zaku's avatar

Evil can be defined in different ways. One simple one from Judeo-Christian tradition is the sin of Greed, and the commandment against same. Insatiable desire for wealth, wanting excessively more than one needs, etc. There is also in opposition to a fundamental principal of Buddhism, and other religious faiths and traditions, including the way natural animals and humans behave (they take what they need, then stop).

My understanding is that corporations whose shares are publicly traded for speculation on (e.g. American) stock exchanges are required to have a dedicated purpose to increase their value, by law. So you have organizations whose purpose is to become more and more valuable – to acquire more and more power and wealth etc., so that the stock value will theoretically increase. So for any amount of profit, wealth, etc., the purpose is to have more tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow, forever. Whatever value a company has, it’s purpose is to have more in future. In fact, to have as much as it can as soon as it can would be ideal, and this pursuit is treated scientifically and passionately, including applying military and psychological science to the pursuit, including driving competitors out of business, creating needs that people don’t presently have, removing others’ self-sufficiency, owning ideas and DNA and land and politicians and shaping laws to make their business more profitable and… anything and everything.

Essentially, for-profit organizations like that pretty much epitomize greed as far as I can see, which makes them essentially sin engines and evil by most faiths I’m familiar with, with the exception of Capitalism (the faith that there is always more to own and consume, and owning and consuming more is always good).

For non-religious definitions of evil, one might observe that there is only so much that can be owned, at least on this world, and organizations with the purpose to own unlimited wealth, means powerful selfish organizations trying to hoard power and resources, which ultimately (and presently) means depriving others of as much as possible.

Corporation doesn’t equal evil. But for-unlimited-profit corporation… maybe does. It’s the “unlimited” part that’s really problematic, it seems to me.

Knotmyday's avatar

profitable shenanigans

robmandu's avatar

Capitalism is anti Judeo-Christian?!

Profit == Sin?!

Guess I need to bone up on my salvation readings.

Zaku's avatar

No, simple profit isn’t sin, and capitalism isn’t necessarily anti-Christian.

But greed is sin, as in stone tablets from God command thou shalt not. If an organization seeks to endlessly profit as much as possible no matter how massively wealthy it is, just for profit’s sake, that’s about as greedy (hence sinful) as it can get. No?

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