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stanleybmanly's avatar

Is it up to us to remedy the debacle with Isis?

Asked by stanleybmanly (22381points) May 22nd, 2015 from iPhone

Clearly, there’s a very strong argument that we’re responsible for it. Once more the right is clamoring to insert (other people’s) kids into the meat grinder.

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stanleybmanly's avatar

I mean when you consider that the 30,000 man Isis force is running amok against the U S “trained” 250,000 man Iraqi army, as well as Syria, Iranian elite troops, the U S Air Force and U S naval and marine aviation—- , I mean what’s left?

talljasperman's avatar

We broke the region messing around with selling weapons and propening up dictators… we are responsible for it. Best that we leave and chalk it up to lesson learned . I think a non interference directive is in order. We can only make things worse.

stanleybmanly's avatar

But you can pretty much guarantee that if Obama commits American ground troops, no Democrat will sit in the White House come 2017.

Zaku's avatar

Yes, it’s up to us to stop people calling it “ISIS” when that’s not really a good transliterated acronym, and people who like the actual goddess Isis are annoyed. Enough is enough!

stanleybmanly's avatar

There are still people vigilant against the slandering of Isis and Osiris?

janbb's avatar

Was wondering the same thing today. Great question. Why is it only up to us, aren’t any other countries worried? We broke Iraq but are Yemen and Syria all our fault too? I don’t have the answers.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Hey,HEY! Canada stepped up with 6 fighter jets and their support crews.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The pathetic results pretty much prove what everyone knows. There’s no bombing a dedicated foe into submission. The civilians of the region are justifiably pissed at the West for permitting the carnage and disruption to persist.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Iraq is the big domino that toppled it all Birdie.

jaytkay's avatar

…aren’t any other countries worried?...

Syria sure does.

Iran has troops in Iraq and they are supporting local Shiite militias.

The other countries playing some role in the US coalition are:
Canada
Jordan
Morocco
United Kingdom
Australia
Belgium
Denmark
France
Germany
Italy
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
Spain
Turkey
Bahrain
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates

rojo's avatar

I would agree to this only if our ground troops consisted of an elite corps of Republican Warhawks personally led into the field by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bolton/Bremmer/Wolfowitz/Rove/Et Al. If that war is so all fired important, get your ass over there and lead the way.

gorillapaws's avatar

I’d like to see us step up the airstrikes, but Iraqis should be defending their own homes on the ground. An Iraqi is much better equipped to distinguish friend from foe, and can pick up on subtle cultural cues that might reveal an ambush. When mistakes happen and innocents are killed, (this is going to sound terrible) it’s much better for those responsible to be Iraqi than US soldiers. It removes us from being seen as a foreign imperial force that occupies their country and kills/oppresses innocents—which is exactly the kind of fuel that terrorist propagandists are using.

The fact that we’re not going to shoulder the burden puts extreme pressure for Iraq to unite as a nation and set aside differences between rival factions.

flutherother's avatar

I think we do have a responsibility to remedy the situation that is developing over there. The trouble is we don’t have a remedy.

josie's avatar

Americans are no more responsible for ISIS than girls in miniskirts are responsible for being raped in a biker bar.
However, having spent a good part of my life in that part of the world…
Americans are unwilling, for lots of reasons, to do what has to be done about geopolitical sociopaths like ISIS.
GO HARD, OR GO HOME.

RadioFlyer's avatar

Define “us”.

If these gung-ho republicans and defense contractors want it so bad, first make it a law that their kids must be the first to go….

rojo's avatar

If it is not important enough for them to fight for, why should we?

And, why should we keep giving them weapons for them to leave behind when they run?

Makes you wonder, is it the leadership in the military ranks? Do we have a bunch of people appointed depending upon family or monetary ties and not military skills?

Or is it just that the government they have is not worth fighting for?

Zaku's avatar

@stanleybmanly Yes, there are current people who relate to and respect the ancient Egyptian gods, and who protest against the use of ISIS in the War On Terror media.

SecondHandStoke's avatar

I think I have the childish yet clever banter and obscure reference skills required to be a successful ISIS agent.

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