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Yeahright's avatar

NSFW is watching this movie scene O.K.?

Asked by Yeahright (2762points) July 26th, 2015

What are your thoughts if you catch your SO masturbating to this polemic movie scene from The Professional.?

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elbanditoroso's avatar

(Literally) different strokes for different folks.

My answer – everyone has their own turn-ons and turn-offs. We’re all different, with our own personal tastes.

So if this gets your SO off, then good for him/her. Glad they enjoyed it.

(Asking ‘is something OK’ assumes that there is some societal norm that might be breached. When it comes to sex (and masturbation), I think that society goes out the windows. It’s couldn’t be anything but personal.)

ragingloli's avatar

Well, the girl in the movie, played by nathalie portman, is 12.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@ragingloli – so what?

Are you suggesting that it is now legal only to masturbate to thoughts of women over 18? Will the thought police arrest you if you are thinking about younger people?

You are moving into a dangerous place—criticizing people for what they fantasize about.

Pachy's avatar

Once upon a time I would have joined her. Today I’d probably be napping.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I’m puzzled at the question. I don’t find the scene particularly erotic. I think I understand why it was cut from the movie. Though it goes a long way to establishing the motivation for the male lead and his obsessive protection of the Portman character, it distracts from the tense running narrative and the problems to be solved for much too long.

filmfann's avatar

This scene was cut from the American release, but was seen in Europe.
It was restored in later DVD releases, now titled “Leon”, rather than “The Professional”.
It is not in itself erotic, to me anyway. I suppose anyone could masturbate to anything.
I might be more concerned if they were yanking while watching “Silence of the Lambs”.

rockfan's avatar

Well if someone masturbates to this, they’re obviously a pedophile

Darth_Algar's avatar

Thanks for sharing. I’ve never seen that scene before (I’ve only view the edited American version) but I think it adds a lot to the film’s narrative. Cutting it out did a disservice to the American version.

As with others I see nothing particularly erotic about it. Not sure what I’d think if I caught someone jacking to it, but I’m not one to really judge what others fantasize about as long as they’re not harming anyone else.

@rockfan

Correction – they’re a hebephile, not a pedophile. Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children. While Portman is still quite young in this movie she’s clearly not a pre-pubescent child. As I recall she was 14 at the time she filmed this. Honestly, 14 has been marriageable age in most cultures throughout most of the history of human civilization.

It’s an unfortunate modern trend to demonize anyone who has even a thought about anyone a minute under 18 as a “pedophile”. Applying the brushstrokes that broadly probably makes us all “pedophiles”.

filmfann's avatar

@Darth_Algar She was 12, which is a bit younger.

DrasticDreamer's avatar

If I caught my SO masturbating to a scene like that, with a child so young who clearly hasn’t even developed yet, I would end the relationship immediately and suggest that my ex get therapy. Instead of completely vilifying, however, I will make the distinction between active predators (child molesters) and passive “predators” (fantasy only), because one is committing a crime against a child and the other only allows themselves to think about it. I would be with neither kind of person romantically, though, because it would make me far too uncomfortable, and I most definitely would never choose to have a child with that kind of person.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@filmfann

The character is 12. The actress playing the character was a bit older than that. At any rate, as I say, she’s definitely not a pre-pubscent child there, and my overall point stands.

josie's avatar

Two different issues.

It would be tough to tell the story in that movie without dealing with how those two might react to being committed to one another, one as a grown up killer with a sympathetic heart, and the other as a desperate pubescent orphan.

On the other hand, masturbating because of the tense circumstance, is, in my opinion, a little weird.

But to each his or her own.

filmfann's avatar

@Darth_Algar. The film took 90 days to shoot. Assuming they had to spend at least 2 months editing it, which is very little time, she would have neen 12, regardless of whether you consider her pre-pubescent.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@filmfann

Do you dispute my overall point or are you haggling over her exact age at the time of filming just to be pedantic?

filmfann's avatar

@Darth_Algar While Portman is still quite young in this movie she’s clearly not a pre-pubescent child. As I recall she was 14 at the time she filmed this. Honestly, 14 has been marriageable age in most cultures throughout most of the history of human civilization.
Your defense was based, partially, on the cultural acceptance of someone her age being in a sexual relationship. Step before a judge, and you will find a huge difference between a 12 and 14 year old.

wsxwh111's avatar

Excuse me but does SO mean partner?

filmfann's avatar

Significant Other. Yes, a partner, spouse, or girl friend/boy friend.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@filmfann

12, 13, 14…...Little difference. Throughout much of human history a girl has been considered marriageable pretty much as soon as she hit puberty. The notion of <18 = off limits is, again, a fairly modern one.

And I made no “defense” per se, but simply clarified terms. I see nothing in the clip or the original post to demonize or defend really.

ucme's avatar

*Natalie

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