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josie's avatar

Why isn't the Democrat party "establishment" all over Joe Biden.

Asked by josie (30926points) August 27th, 2015

The press sort of makes him out to be a buffoon, but the truth is he has a long history in the legislature of being a guy who works both sides of the aisle.

Just about everybody in DC likes him, trusts him, and regards him as being as honorable as they can expect from a politician.

Which is what people from every edge of the political spectrum wants right now.

So why is he not the Democrat candidate?

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SQUEEKY2's avatar

Has he been asked, has he thrown his hat in?
Does he want to try for it?

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

If you check out the world’s press, they are wondering the same thing. They are totally baffled by our favorites. Trump has them rolling in the aisles, until they remember he’ll be up against Putin, Iran, IS and have one of the world’s largest nuclear arsenals at his fingertips. Americans. Go figure.

ucme's avatar

Maybe because he permanently has the look of someone “nearly dead”

Zaku's avatar

Just putting “biden joe” in, I see much conjecture about why he may or may not run for president, etc etc etc. I could make up my own hunches, but I don’t know.

@ucme I dunno. He looks pretty robust to me, for someone with his job, at his age, and having just lost a child.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Hillary has been anointed, and Biden has been shaken up by the tragic death of his son. The other thing that few of us consider in regard to both Biden and Warren is that any intelligent person objectively looking at the realities in running for President as well as the frustrations in serving in this place increasingly noted for the stupidity of its residents, would have to be a masochist to consider such a fate. But of course a large ego can overcome such handicaps.

josie's avatar

So you are implying that a guy whose son dies should retreat and give up, rather than make a positive affirmation? Is that healthy?

Judi's avatar

He has said he is still pretty broken up about his son’s death. He knows the energy and stamina it would take to compete for the job and he has not decided if he has it in him at this point.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I’m saying that a wise man would look at the situation in this country where probably 1 person in 10 could name the Vice President, and ask “what’s the point?”

josie's avatar

And that is his choice.
But we digress.
Why isn’t he the D guy until he says no?

kritiper's avatar

Who? You mean the vice president who acts like a subdued Donald Trump?

ibstubro's avatar

@ age 72, Biden’s too old to be more than a one-termer.

Hillary is too old, in my opinion, as she’ll be 68 when she takes office.

Reagan was elected at age 70 and suffering early stage dementia by the time his second term was out.

josie's avatar

Are there laws against age discrimination?
Just sayin

kritiper's avatar

@josie Yep, there are laws about age discrimination, that is true. We could elect a corpse but would we get any work out of him? Or her? Or it?

si3tech's avatar

His son died just a very short while ago, could be one possibility. And possibly his age. And now that I think of it with the way candidates are dissected why would anyone run? The seemingly total destruction of candidates by each other and the press is appalling.

ibstubro's avatar

I can bring any prejudice or discrimination I please to to my voting booth, @josie.
I’m the only man behind that curtain.

Do you view it differently?

janbb's avatar

We don’t kno wyet if he will run and we don’t know yet who the candidate will be.

rojo's avatar

I think it has to do with the inherent power of the Clinton Dynasty in the Democratic party. Clinton is in. Having been told the party has chosen (and I use the word loosely) Hilary he has been told don’t rock the boat and Biden, being a loyal party man is toeing the party line.

JeSuisRickSpringfield's avatar

It might have something to do with the bigwigs not being sure whether they can overcome the media portrayal. He may be a serious candidate, but there’s a serious question about whether that fact could be gotten across to a plurality of voters. Look at Bush/Gore: a lot of people bought into the “dumb guy you’d have a good time hanging out with vs. boring guy who overstates his own accomplishments” despite the fact that neither of those were accurate descriptions. (Bush is not idiot, even if he isn’t as smart as some of his predecessors. And Gore never claimed to have invented the internet. But the media has long lost its taste for nuance.)

kritiper's avatar

@josie Age discrimination, like being guilty or innocent of a crime, is only relevant in a court of law. Outside of that court, like it or not, all bets are off. Elect anyone you like, old or young, brain dead or genius and what ultimately matters is the person’s ability to perform as expected and/or required.

cletrans2col's avatar

Another possibility is that even though I believe that he could be formidable, he would have to overcome his record of being the leader of the tough on crime era that brought mandatory minimums, the penalty differential between crack and coke (and in general the War on Drugs), and more cops on the street. Things that in today’s climate could be an issue.

JLeslie's avatar

I think a lot of Democrats really wanted Hillary Clinton 7 years ago, and so we are holding our breath to evaluate if it will really be a possibility this time and trying to figure out if we still support her as we did before.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Perhaps he doesn’t want the job. At any rate it would be stupid to start throwing support and resources behind someone who, thus far, has gave no indication that he’s even interested.

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