If the caucasian / white race were to become extinct would that bother you?

I would be delighted.

@ragingloli Just wants the colonies be become extinct!

It wouldn’t bother me in the least. Anyway, it can’t happen, unless the earth is completely destroyed and ALL races become extinct..

In an ideal world, I would love to have the concept of race abolished completely. I don’t consciously think of myself as white but of course, that’s one of the privileges of being thus far in the majority.

Nope, I think the entire species should become extinct. lol

The disappearance of white folks would be unsettling. But suppose all of those white folks could be transformed from “colorless” to say blue or purple. I would personally flip that switch in a New York minute.

I’m pretty sure that in the next 3000 years or so, we’ll all look pretty similar. There won’t be much distinction between black, white, brown, red, yellow. Except for the occasional “throw backs.”

There is no distinct white race, or any other race. There is even a question of species distinction, given how much Neanderthal DNA has been found throughout Europe.

There is no “white / Caucasian race”. There is only Human Race, all skin colors, heights, hair color are differences of DNA.

So like @Coloma said the entire species would disappear.

I like my crackers like I like my crackers.
Broken, and drowned in a dark liquid.

Extinct? Well, it would mean that I was dead, so on that level, sure it would bother me.

What do I think about the fact that there will inevitably be more racial mixing among humans, to the point that white people might not exist in the future? I don’t care. By the time that happens, humanity will have serious problems to worry about. If we even exist as a species, we will probably have met some very trying challenges, hopefully together.

That would mean that finally we reached a point where white lives mattered.

That would mean my own demise, so I’d be beyond caring or not caring.

It’s worth mentioning that there is no “white race,” just people with lighter complexions and certain ethnic traits.

@Cruiser but only for a few minutes cuz we’d be daid. Too late!

Has anyone mentioned that “white” is not a “race,” no more than a white husky dog is of a different “race” than a brown dachshund? Oh, yes, they did. Nevermind me.

Humanity transcends race. In prehistory there were all kinds of crazy humans running around. Humanity is entering a convergence period right now. Once (if) we start to relocate off world we will be diverging again.

^^^^ I know. Ain’t it cool?!

Not at all.

Like others have mentioned, race is a social construct—biologically speaking, it isn’t a “thing.” Just to emphasize how much it isn’t a thing—we don’t divide other species up into races, yet we have less genetic diversity across our entire population than virtually any other single species on the planet. Biologically speaking, the caucasian race can’t go extinct, because it doesn’t exist.

However:

Socially, economically, politically, etc., it very much does. Even as our understanding of humans a species slowly dissolves the racial concepts we forced upon ourselves and each other for centuries, the disparities, the prejudices, the privileges of the majorities, etc., all still exist, imbedded in the social structure. So to me, the “extinction” of the caucasian race would mean the extinction of one element of social divisions. And that seems like a very good thing.

No. For one thing, I would be dead and not in a position to care.

@NerdyKeith see what kind of nit picky audience you have to cater to? What ever you do never mess up with punctuation or spelling~

I agree with everything @dappled_leaves said!

There is no such thing as race. No biological definition. And I don’t think their are any “pure” bloodlines. We are all a jumble of dna.

*there

I should clarify that I am mostly talking about what @Dutchess__III was referring to in reference to all the human race one day looking more like each other.

Perhaps ethnicity is a more accurate description rather than race?

@Cruiser,

That’s alright I appreciate constructive criticism and feedback. I see it as a learning experience.

Yes, “ethnicity” is more accurate.
“Races” some how implies, almost, different species somehow. At least I think that’s what they were thinking when they came up with the term.

I would argue that cultures are always being influenced by other cultures. There is no “white” culture anymore than their is a Mexican culture or a black culture. Using ethnicity as a idea to divide people is just as ridiculous as using race. Why can’t we all just understand that we are all one—the human race. And beyond that, we are all earthlings.

@tinyfaery Yes multiculturalism is on the rise (and I actually think its a great thing).

Unfortunately racial identities or ethnicity identities are sometimes needed to identify the cause of discrimination; when it is a racial issue. Sadly racism still exits in this world. So these labels or identities allow us to establish what the problem is. Racism unfortunately is still a problem.

Most of us here (if not all) agree that the human race is the only race that really counts, but there are a lot of small minded people in this world who just don’t see it that way. In a perfect world we would have no labels at all. But we are not living in a perfect world.

I think it would be a shame if the range of variation in human appearance were narrowed. The world would be a duller place if people all looked more alike. But I’m talking about genes and traits here, such as complexion and coloring, and not something as elusive as race.

If I was nitpicky, I didn’t mean to be… I took “extinct” to mean “gone” rather than “changed-over-time” or “combined-with-others”; and I was answering the question as if the concept-of-race or the concept-of-division were gone, rather than a section of humanity or sections of human culture were suddenly extinguished. Having a potentially divisive concept gone is much less problematic than having actual humanity gone. My answer would be more or less the same if the word “race” was swapped with “ethnicity,” though I would change a few things.

From my understanding, race as a concept has historically been tied to ideas of power and superiority, of one group trying to cement their dominance by claiming their blood/intellect/etc. was better than another group. Ethnicity, from what I understand, is our more recent attempt to tie social identities back to cultures rather than bloodlines. And while it doesn’t have the same hierarchical connotation, it still tends to follow racial lines, and insofar as it does that, it makes me a little wary. Insofar as it celebrates our remarkable cultural diversity, I am more comfortable with it. Still, ethnicity would be a social construct of distinction, and consequently even as it tries to recognize diversity it may add artificial separation between groups. The fewer conceptual divisions we place between each other, the better, I think. (Or I hope?)

But if we’re talking about a gradual combination or assimilation, I think of it less as extinction and more as evolution. (Perhaps I am being nitpicky…)

Considering the cultural aspect ethnicity brings in complicates the issues. Combination often means giving up certain aspects of one, and certain aspects of another (which in itself isn’t necessarily bad, but the majority-ethnicity often expects the minority one to give up more.)

As far as the physical differences we have—some random mutations causing things like blue eyes, and some ten-thousands years separation where humans at different latitudes lost various amounts melanin pigmentation because they needed less protection from the sun and more efficient vitamin D production… I’m not so concerned about those becoming blended. Even if our hair and skin hues do begin to converge on a single shade: we’ll still be able to perceive wide differences between each other (we learn as babies how to attend to differences to distinguish people); there will still be recessive traits carried through the genome that will emerge; we’ll still decorate ourselves with fashion/style/art; and our faces, bodies, postures, and personalities will still be unique, etc.

That depends on the time frame.

Tomorrow? Well, my son is white, so I certainly hope he doesn’t become extinct.

If you mean we’d be bred out few generations hence? Sure, no problem.

@Seek Yes that is what I mean. Perhaps I should have phrased my question like that. But that is ultimately what I am getting at.

It bothers me, because it is like seeing a species of animals become extinct. We go all that length to protect a species of birds, monkeys, plants… so why not human?

No.

Would it bother me? Bother isn’t the right word. I wouldn’t be bothered. I’m very white/pale and it’s always been a negative for me. I burn in the sun, have many more wrinkles than my darker skinned husband and friends, and overall I have never idealized being white. However, I do feel being caucasian is an advantage in our society, even though I don’t feel aware of it unless I put my mind to thinking about it. That’s what happens when you are part of the majority I guess. I think this changing.

I do admit to not wanting to see blonde and red hair disappear. These both usually occur with fair skin. It won’t bother me per se, but I like the variety and the “uniqueness” of the recessive traits showing themselves. I think it will take a very very long time to completely get rid of recessive traits from the entire planet. I don’t think the topic of skin color (hair color, eye color) is something to worry about, that’s for sure.

Well I’ve made a deliberate choice to not have any children, so I’d have no room to bitch.

No. I would be extinct.

Ever since I was a little kid, I’ve been saying how awesome I think it would be if parents could be surprised by the skin color of their child the same way they can choose to be surprised by their child’s sex.

So no, it wouldn’t bother me at all. Eventually, people are going to look more and more similar as people move around the world, intermingle and procreate.

When humans left Africa and migrated into Europe—what skin colour do you think they had?

Of course it would, I along with my family would be part of that equation & besides, that would be a pretty startling headline to read in the news…“wait, stop, you gotta be shittin me!”

You mean like what Detroit looks like now? Or Africa? Or most of the Middle East? Or Latin America? That kind of white extinction?

Yes, I would mind a lot. These non-white countries are absolute shiteholes. Hell on earth. I’m not looking forward to that kind of utopia here in the America. Although we’re certainly heading in that direction as more and more whites becomes minorities here. The next stage of decline here will probably start shaping out to be like the white situation in Brazil or South Africa before total annihilation.

Wait….are you suggesting that non-white humans aren’t capable of creating a civilized society without the help of white people, @rmnj?

Asians and Jews are capable. We see this with their own developed countries.

What other non-white countries are developed?

Even a former colonized country like South Africa is more “developed” than other neighboring African countries that were not colonized. This changed too when South Africans started to genocide whites. Only 8% left now and projecting lower.

Wow. Well, “Jews” refers to a religion, not an ethnicity. Further, Judaism began in one of those regions you just listed as genetically inferior to whites, the Middle East.

Africa has seen it’s share of mighty, civilized and wealthy kingdoms, most notably Egypt.

As to your “South Africans started to genocide whites,” comment, you have it a bit backward. You’re referring to Aparthied. which was a race system perpetuated by whites, much the same as the disgraceful race system in place in America until very recently. It was perpetuated by the governing class, which was white. Out of that came the likes of great people like Nelson Mendella.

Out of America’s struggle to actually become truly civilized came President Barack Obama.

Brazilians, whom you also listed as genetically inferior, are cousins to the Aztecs, who ruled what is now known as modern day Mexico for hundreds of years, with a great and wealthy civilization.

You really must look beyond the last 500 years when coming to your conclusions.

Genetic studies have revealed that Jews have an ethnic basis. Evidence

I don’t think you understood what developed country means. A developed country is a highly developed economy with an advanced technological infrastructure.

You also seem to have misunderstood white genocide. I am not defending Apartheid. I think the current genocide against whites is a matter of self-defence against apartheid. My point is the colonization of South Africa “developed” the country more than its neighboring African countries that were not colonized. What this means is South Africa would have been even a bigger shitehole than it is today if it wasn’t for the colonization.

I am not sure where you got genetics or inferiority from as I had not mentioned either term. I think that is called a strawman or perhaps a character assassination. If you insist on doing that again I will have to block you from further discourse. Until then, I stand by what I said.

Um, lets see, “These non-white countries are absolute shiteholes”. Color has everything to do with genetics.

Also, Jews are “European and Middle Eastern groups.” European Jews are relative new comers who adopted the middle eastern religion. You named the Middle East as genetically inferior (non-white) But in the same breath you mentioned Jews as superior. You’re confused.

Again, try to look beyond the minuscule last few hundred years that define today’s “successful” and “unsuccessful” populations. It has to do with politics and greed, not skin color.

And this isn’t Facebook. You can’t block me. So sry.

Yes it does. And?

I said most of the middle east. I specifically said most to separate a developed country like Israel from the rest of the surrounding undeveloped countries.

Reread what developed country means.

You’re right. I don’t see a block feature. I will just ignore you then.

Jumping I to your debate @mnj and Dutchess_III I will say most Jews are Caucasian. So are Arabs and Persians. Judaism usually is considered both a religion and ethnicity, but not a race, although people and governments define race in all sorts of ways. In America the people from the Middle East are classified as white on the census.

As far as countries being prosperous and industrialized, it probably is a fact as we look around the world that majority white nations have been some of the firsts to be part of the developed world. Parts of East Asia too. However, that does not imply anything for the future. Countries can catch up fast. Also, if you want to use America as an example and throw out Detroit and Memphis and other cities as examples, I would blame mostly white America for setting the racial divide on the course it took.

The very earliest civilizations were Mesopotamia, Egypt (Africa), Indus Valley and China, beginning 35,000 years BC (55,000 years ago.)
After that came the Central Andes and Mesoamerica (Native Americans way down South.)
White civilizations didn’t even show up until 5 BC, with the advent of the Greeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_civilization

I would blame mostly the early Catholic religion for the racial and ethnic divide.

edit.

@JLeslie

Catch up? They had a head start. They should be light years ahead. Rome 2,000 years ago was in better shape than modern day Africa. They’re still living in homes made out of mud in Africa.

Israel is literally in a dessert. They turned a dessert into a powerhouse of the world. These non-white countries get billions of foreign aid from developed white countries, and they still can’t develop themselves.

Europe experienced slavery and wars. It didn’t stop them from developing. They’re not making excuses in the 2016 about how slavery and wars made it difficult to develop themselves.

The fact that one needs to go back thousands of years just to show that non-whites were able to stick several stones together and call that a developed civilization makes it even more saddening. As if that somehow sets a precedent for their ability to engineer robotics.

@rmnj Civilization is not necessary a linear, forward moving progression. Quite a bit of European society and technological progression was made possible by discoveries, culture and inventions from the so called “shit holes” What if religion was allowed to continue with full power at its height and run amok in Europe. What if people like Issac Newton had been burned at the stake for heresy. A couple of small twists in history and Europe would be that shit hole.

Excellent points @ARE_you_kidding_me.

[Mod Says] @rmnj has left the building (returning troll).

What does he get out of this shit? Anything? He just proves over and over what an ass he is.

By the way, @rmnj, since we both know you can’t stay away: these are some really impressive mud huts.

Just getting ready to have some fun with this one…oh well.

Sorry, @ARE_you_kidding_me. Maybe @rmnj won’t tip his hand so early the next time.

I haven’t read all of the most recent responses to this question, but I think it bears mentioning that the OP (as far as I know) is not envisioning a war or a disease that wipes out white people within a year or anything. He’s talking about an extremely gradual change, based on who has children with whom. It’s a love thing. There’s no need to worry about creating new civilizations from scratch. The civilizations are already here.

@Dutchess_III “What does he get out of this shit? Anything? He just proves over and over what an ass he is.”

Some men aren’t looking for anything logical. Some men just want to watch the forum burn.

But…that isn’t “extinction” @dappled_leaves. I mean, a white person (baby) or two or five or whatever, could pop up anywhere in the next 100,000 years or more, because the genes are still there, intact. Just hiding. Waiting to cause a problem in the family.

I have heard that those of us who have blue eyes can have a common ancestor in a woman who lived 5000 years ago. Blue eyes had to be extremely rare, but over the years it’s became very common.

In the same way it’s possible that the white “race” could come back to life.