General Question

yankeetooter's avatar

Do you give out your contact information at work casually? How is that handled at your job? Are you careful to make sure access to it is on a need-to-know basis?

Asked by yankeetooter (9651points) March 3rd, 2016

Here’s the situation. Our school nurse was told by the boss to gather everyone’s contact information and add it to a master list. Once that had been completed, she was to email the list to me, as he wanted me to make a file folder for each employee.

During the process, she approached me and asked me to write down name, address, phone number, emergency contact, etc. I do not casually give out this information to anyone, but in particular, I did not want to give it to her because she is a very nosy person who runs her mouth about everybody at work. I simply told her that when she sent the list on, I would add my info to the list.

She became demanding, insisting that I write down my information. I once again stated that I would wait and add it the list when it was completed. She became all huffy and said she was going to say something to the principal because I wouldn’t give her the info.

(I felt like laughing in her face, because she sounded like a three-year-old threatening to tattle, but I didn’t really say anything.) After she walked away, I contacted HR to let them know the situation, and was confirmed in that I didn’t have to give my info to her. But, wow!

Observing members: 0 Composing members: 0

25 Answers

canidmajor's avatar

She was given a specific directive and was trying to fulfill that. I’m not quite sure what you think she will do with it that is inappropriate.
Every job that I have had has required that I fill out such a form, I am happy to disclose that information.
Are they asking for sensitive information? You don’t elaborate on what else beyond basic contact and emergency contact info.
And who will have access to those file folders?
I think that, unless there is extremely sensitive, personal information being disclosed, you don’t really need to worry about that.

yankeetooter's avatar

I disagree. My personal information is my personal information. People can Google information about you based on phone number, address, etc. I do have a right to make sure that only appropriate administrators and HR have access to that information. And I understand she was doing as she was told, but she should have let it go once I let her know I didn’t want to share that information. She has boundary issues that have been noted by other staff before.

chyna's avatar

I give out my emergency contact information willingly. Even if a nosy person had the information, I have nothing to hide.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

@yankeetooter Is this school you work at in the US? If so, this nurse who runs her mouth is putting her license in jeopardy by doing so. This is a huge no no, especially for people in the medical field. This is highly unprofessional and, if she divulges anything medical or non-medical with identifiers such as names or numbers of any kind without the written consent of the subject to anyone other than those designated to be on that person’s medical team, she is non-compliant as to the Information Privacy Law, Patient Privacy Act, HIPAA laws, and primary medical ethics and she needs to be reported immediately. This includes information of any kind about any student, including their family members and situation, or any employee who’s private information she is entrusted with, conveyed to anyone other than their legal guardians and designated medical team members or, in this case, her superior.

If she enjoys engaging in idle gossip, then she can do that to her heat’s content—while waiting on tables.

Seek's avatar

I’m pretty sure the biggest issue here is that the Principal is taking contact information from the nursing staff for his own personal files. Is there a reason the Principal himself needs the contact information, that is not ordinarily handled by HR?

yankeetooter's avatar

@Espiritus_Corvus ,,,thanks. I prefer not to have to enforce this after the fact, however, which is why I am not giving her my information.

yankeetooter's avatar

@Seek…I have no idea. He wanted a list of all staff (so I could make file folders), and I see no reason why she couldn’t go around and acquire staff names, but I’m not sure about the rest.

jca's avatar

Sometimes the boss will want to have a handy-dandy list of people and their contact info in case of emergency. I willingly give out this information as I have nothing to hide. I agree with @canidmajor.

Seek's avatar

Well, then that would be a question to take to HR. “Excuse me, I’m sure I’m overreacting and just let me know if this is silly to ask, but I’ve been given the task of compiling employee emergency contact information for the Principal. Are you guys aware of this, and is this something that should be done? I know several faculty members are very cautious about where their emergency contacts are stored.”

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

I had to share every waking detail of my life to get the job I have. They know pretty much everything.

yankeetooter's avatar

But, @ARE_you_kidding_me…not with every single person at your job, I’m willing to bet….

Seek's avatar

As for my personal contact information stuff:

It goes to HR, or the person directly in charge of making emergency calls. I give my personal number to my direct supervisor for necessary work-related communication (“Hi, Seek, I’ll be late coming in tomorrow, can you open for me?” and that is it. No Facebook. No Twitter (not that I tweet often, but when I do it’s my business and not my boss’s). No personal email (I have a separate email account for sending resumes and stuff).

I’m trading my time in exchange for money. If you’re contacting me off the clock for work-related communication, then I’m working for free. Nope.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

@yankeetooter no of course not. They do maintain a list of contact info for all of us that we have access to and are updated on regularly though. We are all subject to being called out at any time and as a consequence we all basically need to be able to contact each other to coordinate things.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

I would tell anyone asking for my private contact information that they can get everything they need from HR, if they are authorized to have it. And your boss should know that and not be utilizing his employees in redundant tasks that take them away from their primary duties. This guy’s asshatness just gets better and better every time you post about him. If he keeps it up, there just might be a “How to Not Be a Boss” book in it for you. Have him autograph the first edition for us.

janbb's avatar

@Seek Schools don’t have HR departments in each school. Most schools need contact info for snow closings or emergencies. I can’t imagine any school requiring info such as FB or Twitter accounts – that’s not contact info.

Seek's avatar

The OP has referenced the hr department several times. Either way it’s not the school nurse’s job to collect info.

Besides, I was answering the original question which asked how we treat our own contact info.

janbb's avatar

True, I was responding to your first post as to why the info might be needed by the principal. No biggie.

canidmajor's avatar

Well, since you didn’t answer any of my questions, I’ll just have to to assume that you assume that you work with a few people who will likely use your information against you. In that case, maybe looking for a new job is indeed your best option.

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

I don’t know why the nurse was tasked with this role, but perhaps because in an emergency situation she’s likely to be involved and would be able to access that info if required. I can’t speak to this person, but I would think the school nurse would normally be someone who could be trusted with private information. As such the principal may have thought she was an appropriate person to undertake this task.

@yankeetooter, I can’t see the problem with having to provide your name, address, phone number and an emergency contact. This is pretty standard info in a workplace. What if you suddenly got sick and they needed to contact that emergency contact person? What if you didn’t turn up at work today and your employer needed to contact you? Why are you so worried about giving your employers such information?

Given her boss and your boss had tasked her with this duty, it sounds more like you were acting like a three-year-old. I can see why she might have thought your refusal was irritating. Given how many questions you’ve asked about your boss in the last few days, perhaps she’s also feeling under stress and wants to do the most professional work she can.

Can I add, if an emergency happens early in the day or last thing at night, HR might not be available. They operate on a strictly 9–5 basis where I work. I can understand the principal wanting this information to hand in case he needs it. I don’t think he asked for anything that could be construed as inappropriate information. It’s basic contact info.

Cupcake's avatar

@janbb I’ve certainly heard of schools requiring facebook info for their staff. A local college even requests facebook passwords from their adjunct faculty.

janbb's avatar

@Cupcake I did wonder about that part after I posted that.

chyna's avatar

@cupcake In that case I would have to respectfully but firmly decline.

jca's avatar

However, in the case of the OP @yankeetooter, it sounds like they’re not looking for friending her on FB, Twitter or asking for passwords, they’re looking for contact info in case of emergency. There’s a big difference.

Cupcake's avatar

@chyna My coworker had that in her contract. She had to provide her facebook name and login information. So she choose to have her facebook account under her maiden name and denied that she, with her current name, had a facebook account. The point was moot as no student would find her or friend her on facebook.

@jca True. Unrelated, but interesting, information.

yankeetooter's avatar

Sorry…I’m pretty horrible at updating sometimes. I found out this list was not going to be accessible to everyone, but on the admin drive. Also, the person collecting the info does not have access to the drive it is stored on, although she told me she did. I added my cell phone number to the list, and stated specifically on the form that it was not to be given out to anybody but administration without my express permission.

Answer this question

Login

or

Join

to answer.

This question is in the General Section. Responses must be helpful and on-topic.

Your answer will be saved while you login or join.

Have a question? Ask Fluther!

What do you know more about?
or
Knowledge Networking @ Fluther