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Is "Climate Change" a Facade for a One World Government?

Asked by btko (2811points) July 29th, 2008

I’m not saying that climate change isn’t happening… it’s always happening. But do these particular means justify the ends we could be heading towards?

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syz's avatar

What?

marinelife's avatar

First, I see absolutely no evidence we are heading toward a one world government.

Second, I see no evidence that climate change and cooperation between nations will lead to it.

Third, one world government fear mongers have never provided any reason to fear such a thing, which is not occurring anyway.

kevbo's avatar

I would say yes it is a catalyst, but is that good or bad? Bad is probably the correct answer (i.e. it would be a bad one world government), but on the other hand, our best efforts have already done a lot of damage to the environment. Greater awareness and greater coordination (along with truly benevolent leadership) would definitely be a step in the right direction.

I guess the trick is not to get fooled.

PupnTaco's avatar

No more than Hawaiian Punch is a front for The Illuminati.

btko's avatar

Thanks for the couple answers. I can think of a couple things to not necessarily “fear”, but at least be wary of.

a.) Representation, or lack thereof. What little effect we do have on our governments would be even more worthless. Do I really need to quantify this?

b.) Repression. Think of how governments work. Governments repress, or at the very least try, any subversive/alternative ideas. Governments want to maintain power. With a worldwide government would repression not increase?

I’m not against “government”. I want to live in a true democracy, not some farce. The best way to do that is take government and control down to more a more local level. that’s my humble opinion.

marinelife's avatar

It is hard to talk about this seriously when there is nothing to critique or discuss. There is no repression. There is nothing to show what representation would be if such a government existed.

I have enough real worries and concerns to give a lot of head space to this nebulous anxiety.

btko's avatar

Sorry to waste time in your exemplary life Marina.

What country do you live in? If the government that you live under doesn’t repress subversive thought I would really like to live there.

kevbo's avatar

@btko, that’s probably true, but it doesn’t keep pace with the scale of production and distribution. Of what use is local government if pollution is coming our way from halfway across the world and vice versa?

Please give Marina a break. She really does have a pile of crap on her personal plate right now.

marinelife's avatar

@btko No need to be sarcastic about my life. I was answering your question in good faith with my opinion to which I am entitled.

I live in the United States where so far there is no repression of subversive thought. In fact, you can find it everywhere on the Web and elsewhere.

btko's avatar

@ Marina, sorry about the sarcasm. How I read your response was that my question isn’t even worth discussion and I was starting to get defensive, because I find the topic serious and worthy of discussion.

I would argue that the United States does repress thought and information, not as much as say China or North Korea… I’ll try and come up with some examples.

kevbo's avatar

Marina, I’d take some exception to the “no repression” argument. Granted, it’s not in your face repression, but warrantless wiretapping and warrantless searches can lead to intimidation of thought. Feminist Naomi Wolf, in fact, is wondering why she is on the terror watch list and describes her experience as follows:

“I’m on the Transportation Security Administration’s watch list. The watch list is being used for political purposes … It is very intimidating to be taken aside and be given a special screening by the state when I travel. When I went up to Vermont to copy-edit this book … I opened my case, and there was a letter from the Transport Security Administration in my suitcase. We are living in a surveillance society now. It’s time to sound the alarm.”

Furthermore:

“We are facing the situation where the White House has threatened to use the espionage act against journalists, against The New York Times. This is not rhetoric. We are in a major emergency.”

The Valerie Plame case is another good example.

Another good example is a video that chris6137 posted a while back that showed Rove’s team was targeting minority voters who were deployed overseas. The would send letters to verify their addresses and use the “return undeliverable” response as justification to render them ineligible to vote in direct violation of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. I’m sorry I don’t have the video, but here is an article describing the same.

I don’t think intimidation of thought is alien to American history. McCarthyism is an example. I’m sure others could name more.

marinelife's avatar

Right, kevbo, members of the Bush administration have been breaking a series of laws. I have great hopes for a change with the election. If that old crook Ted Stevens can finally be indicted, there is hope.

kevbo's avatar

um… and suspending our constitutional rights? Something that Obama voted in support of (via FISA).

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