Is it possible to have a discussion on the positive aspects of Trump?

”his loud bias against the buying and selling of influence.”
It makes zero sense.
Trump is like a mob boss running for mayor on a platform against police corruption, while he is the one that pays off the cops and judges.
While bragging about how he buys cops and judges.
He is a thief that talks to you about the evils of theft, while emptying your wallet right in front of your eyes.

Just recently, it was revealed that he bribed the florida attorney general to drop an investigation into his “trump university” scam.

You want to talk about his “positive” aspects?
How about you FIND some first?

Is it possible to have a discussion on the positive aspects of Trump?

Does he have any?

On Fluther?

It’s possible if you can ignore the herd of elephants in the room that represent his negative aspects.

Here’s one, he’d be a better option than Hillary & that’s fucking saying something

He was a good reality show celebrity. Came up with a great catchphrase and all.

He’s funny, and his economic policies are better than Hillary’s?

He is a great shade of orange.
He has really white rims around his eyes.
His hair is really fluffy. There! Found something kind of positive!

Trump is loudly expressing the racist know-nothing appeal at the core of the Republican message for the past five decades.

He is saying it explicitly instead of using coded language and even the national media is finally willing to be impolite enough to describe the GOP as the party of racists know-nothings.

We’ve got that going for us, which is nice.

His daughter designs nice handbags.

He’s got the GOP establishment scared, he isn’t politically correct, and doesn’t speak in riddles. And he hasn’t (yet) left a government representative to be murdered in a terrorist hellhole.

Sure. There’s his…um…no not that Oh, how about when he…ah nope Ooh, I got one. His amazing…er nuh uh

Hmmm…gimme a minute.

I agree with the wall. I have stock in home depot and ladder sales should skyrocket.

He has the word rump in his name. That must be worth something.

He managed to do a better job of parenting than a lot of others who are filthy rich.

He didnt raise a bunch of lazy rich entitled brats. At least his kids never made themselves tabloid fodder but instead applied themselves to their education, got good grades and became productive adults (which is more than can be said for numerous other rich families offspring, Hilton being but one example springing to mind.)

That doesn’t mean I’d want him running the country, but you asked for something positive so there it is.

@Buttonstc: True, but the moms of the Trump kids deserve at least half, if not more of the credit. He supplied the money but he was probably not home 95% of the time.

“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”
– Donald Drumpf

@jca

Absolutely the moms deserve equal credit. But I don’t think that money was his only contribution to good parenting.

But as an interesting little side note, both of his older kids said that ever since they could remember, even if he wasnt at home, they could call him anytime during the day.

He left standing orders with his secretaries that if one of his kids were on the line, they should put the call through. It mattered not the status of whom he was in a meeting with. He woukd always take a call from one of his kids.

And lets not forget that when they were younger, he was certainly not as prominent or powerful as he eventually came to be. So, even then, his kids needs were a priority for him and if whomever he was meeting with with felt slighted or whatever, Trump was willing to risk that. So this left a lastung impression upon them that they remember even as adults.

Lets put it this way, it was certainly not a common practice among hard driving businessmen to interrupt a meeting to take a call from one of their kids.

I think that anytime a parent lets a child know in whatever way that he/she is a top priority in that parents life, it sends a piwerful message to that child. And actions speak louder than words.

Does that erase the fact that Trump is an egomaniacal blowhard? Of course not and thats why i wont be voting for him to be running the country. But, I dont think that his current odious personality should completely obliterate the fact that somehow he managed to be more than just an adequate parent. The fact that he and Ivanna both raised decent kids who arent spoiled rotten by wealth is not an accident. Especially when you look at how many lazy entitled brats of the super rich or famous populate the tabloids all th e time.

The contrast between his kids and a lot of the rest, speaks of caring parenting rather than absentee parenting and trying to remedy things by throwing money at the situation once it gets out of hand.

Its very similar to the reasons why somebody like Ron Howard in spite of all his early childhood and teenage fame grew up as a well balanced individual who never needed to go down the trainwreck road of drugs and shallow pursuit of yet more fame. It wasnt an accident. He credits both his parents with keeping a balanced home life for their kids and not allowing Hollywood values to prevail.

Does being a good parent make Trump a saint? Of course not. But why is it so impossible to give credit where credit is due and simply acknowledge that somehow he managed to get it right where being a parent was concerned?

@ragingloli

Yes, that quote you cited is certainly not an example of his finest hour and I’m pretty sure he regrets ever opening his mouth on that subje t.

Thinking before he speaks is not one of his qualities, thats for sure :)

^It is my understanding that he was never really in the life of the child he had with Marla Maples after their divorce. I could be wrong, but I read that somewhere.

@chyna

I think youre correct about that if for no other reason than sheer logistics. Since Maples chose to relocate to California, its simply not possible for him to be in Tiffany’s life on a day to day basis as he was with his kids who were in New York for all of their growing up years.

Hopefully, he has the same type of phone policy regarding Tiffany as he did with all of his other kids. I dont see any reason why he wouldnt.

But who knows what his dealings with Marla Maples currently are. Possibly more rancorous than with Ivanna so thats hard on a child. Plus they werent together as long as he was with Ivanna. And i have a lot of respect for Ivanna because regardless of what was going on with the two of them, their role as parents took priority over everything else. I think she was a great example of a woman of accomplishment to her kids since she had an active role in managing his businesses even after their divorce. Whatever quibbles she had with him, personally, she managed to rise above all the pettiness and be a strong role model for the kids. And it shows in their character as adults now.

He definitely doesnt get as much credit in the husband dept. as he does as a parent, thats for sure :)

He has spoken out against some decisions Republicans have made for years and is still doing it. I’m sure he has done it regarding democrats too, I’m just mentioning republicans because he is running as one. He is not agreeing with the base just to get votes as much as most candidates do. I do think he does it a little, but much less than most.

I do think he appreciates America and cares about our country. I think all the candidates do.

I’ve always heard he was and is a good father.

I know a couple of people who have spent time with him at Maralago and they say he is a wonderful host. Very hospitable and welcoming.

Many peers of his in the media speak very highly of him in the personal level.

Most of that doesn’t predict or guarantee what he will be like as president of course. Nor does it erase some of the crazy shit he has said.

He is opposed to the TPP

He has criticised the folly of the Iraq War.