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Should I include this brief stint as an office manager on my resume, or leave it off?

Asked by Dutchess_III (42493points) July 11th, 2016

I was an office manager at our local Edward Jones office for a bit. The guy who hired me, Ken, came in under a mentoring program. The main financial adviser, Roger, who has been here about 20 years, gave Ken his own space at the back of the building.
Ken hired me to be his office manager in March of 2009. Two months later in May of 2009 Ken left the company (he got his happy ass fired, actually >_<) and this negated my position.

As far as admin assistants go, it was a pretty prestigious and sensitive position. That is a big plus. On the down side, I was only there for 2 months. Sometimes I leave it on my resume and note that Ken left, which negated my position. However, if they don’t get that far it could leave them with any number of bad impressions.

So, leave it on or leave it off?

Here’s my work history:

2010 – 2013 Teacher at an adult high school diploma program (closed due to budget cuts. Thanks Brownback.)

2009 Office manager (for two months.)

2002–2007 Sole proprietor (got out of the business before they had to commit me!)

1998–2002, Customer Service Specialist with CellularOne (sold to US Cellular which negated my position.)

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LornaLove's avatar

I’d put it on my C.V. for a few reasons. The first being an indicator that I could and would at any time handle adversity with a professional attitude.

Meaning when they ask why it was so short a term you would need to come up with an explanation as to what happened whilst sounding very professional and diplomatic.

You could also state what you learned from the episode.

Plus of course adding all your great qualifications that got you to be offered such a great position in the first place.

You could add that you thoroughly enjoyed this rather responsible role and would go back there in an instant if a similar type of position was offered even within the company you are applying to.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Curriculum vitae, which is a type of resume that shows more of a progression and more detail. It’s good to keep both. I stopped using a standard resume years ago in favor of a CV. They can be seen as “telling your story”

Dutchess_III's avatar

I looked it up. The definition is simply “a brief account of a person’s education, qualifications, and previous experience, typically sent with a job application.” So how is it different than a resume?

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

A cv contains more detail and allows you to show more of a timeline. A resume is like the cliff notes version of a cv. Not too easy to explain but Just look at some examples online. You’ll see why both have their place.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I am looking. I can’t see any difference between a resume and a CV. I mean…I choose a resume format, that I created myself, that looks very similar to some of the pics I’m seeing Here. Hell. Maybe I’ve been doing my resume wrong!

elbanditoroso's avatar

Leave it off. Two months is not enough to show expertise or mastery. If someone had a two month stint on their resume, it would make me think – why are they trying to pad their credentials with such a meaningless item?

And two months seven years ago? Even less relevant.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Here is a good explanation

stanleybmanly's avatar

I think you should include it for 2 reasons, the first being that you’re wrong about “them not getting to it”. If they’re interseted in you at all, they’ll read every word. The next reason is that you’re experienced as an office manager. Never mind the 2 months. Just be prepared to answer the question about the brevity of the job.

Dutchess_III's avatar

@ARE_you_kidding_me, yeah, I don’t think a CV is called for in any of the positions I apply for. Your link says “Would you prefer a resume or CV?” (And in America, the answer will almost always be “resume” since we know that recruiters don’t spend more than six seconds looking, anyways.)” But I learned some stuff, so thank you for the links. I’m going to tweak my resume some more.

@stanleybmanly Thank you. In your opinion should I leave the reason for leaving on the resume, or wait till, if and when, they ask?

Dutchess_III's avatar

This is such a crap shoot! You have NO idea who will be reading this! One person could say, “Two months? Pffft!” and in the trash.
Another could say, “Well, that is curious. She doesn’t show a history of sporadic work history otherwise. Let’s find out what happened.”

MrGrimm888's avatar

Put it on Dutchess. Part of the hiring process is that you sometimes have to toot your own horn. Any advancement, to me is relevant.
Good luck.

BellaB's avatar

As long as you’re putting in the details of what you did in that job in the qualifications section of your resume, I don’t think you have to put the dates you acquired those skills. If the person who is interviewing you is interested in the particular skills and their development and asks about them, you can talk about the brief job as one link in the chain.

If you’re using a sniper-type resume (which I recommend), you can add it for the jobs where the specific skill-set is relevant.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Thanks y’all.

Next question…HOW DO I STOP THEM FROM SAYING “YOU’RE OVERQUALIFIED!!!”??? Because I am. But it makes no difference to me.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Dutchess. Unfortunately there are many in America right now who are ‘underemployed. ’
Good old struggle bus….

BellaB's avatar

@Dutchess_III , I think that is the hardest thing to respond to.

I’m trying to figure out how to go down a couple of levels since I don’t want to be a specialist or manager. I don’t want to coast through the final years of working, but I just want to be responsible for what I do. I’m gone of done in from mentoring and explaining things to international home office.

Dutchess_III's avatar

My burning desire to move up the corporate ladder is no longer burning. I just want to do my job and bring home a paycheck and get shit paid off by the time we retire. But you can’t tell a prospective employer that.

chyna's avatar

@dutchess Thanks brownback. What does that mean?

Dutchess_III's avatar

Our governor. He is a cluster. So many non-tenured people lost their jobs. Entire buildings shut down. Teachers fled the state. “The change comes amid an educator exodus in Kansas, as 3,700 teachers left Kansas schools this year, 1,500 more than most years.”

Also see here

It got so bad that the Kansas Supreme court threatened to shut Kansas schools down altogether if he didn’t get his shit together by June 30 of this year.

He has just been a disaster and I can’t fathom how he got reelected in the last gubernatorial election. Just google the asshole.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Dutchess III leave the reason for the short stint as office manager out of your résumé, but be prepared with a well thought out explanation when asked about it.

As for Brownback and the plight of Kansas: Kansas is instructive and worthy of particular scrutiny as a likely model on the upcoming fate for rural America. The state’s accelerating gallop toward 3rd world status was probably inevitable once Kansas acquired the distinction as the national laboratory for obtuse conservatism. And here it is important to note that the outflow of teachers from Kansas is not a recent phenomenon. A river of talented and capable people of all sorts has been draining from the state for decades and one BIG consequence of this massive outflow is the resulting political viability of Brownback and his ilk. There are those who will read this indictment as effete elitism, but I nevertheless insist that the election of Brownback and folks like him remains impossible from a population capable of thinking on its collective feet. Brownback is the walking result of the ongoing dilution of abstract thought.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Thanks for the advice. I’ll remove it now. However, there is nothing to “think through well.” Ken left. Period. The only question I can imagine that they could ask is why I had to leave too. The answer is equally simple. EJ offices are 2 person offices, the Financial Advisor and the Office Manager. Rodger already had an office manager and she’s been with him for 20 years. My job was tied to Ken.

Re Kansas education: Perhaps. The article I linked above said that this year the exodus was 2X what it is normally.
I have a small, tiny school on my street. It’s just a couple of blocks up. Two of my grandkids went to pre-K there/ One of them just turned 21. I had a flashing school crossing sign on my property all of these years. They took it down about 4 months ago. It was sad. Such a permanent statement.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I have wonderful memories of your state from when I was a kid. Our family would drive every Summer to visit my mom’s uncles and aunts in Kansas City. It was such a pretty state with immaculate little story book towns along U.S. 73–75. When I read about what’s happened to it, it breaks my heart.

Dutchess_III's avatar

It’s still pretty cool in many places. I live in one of those immaculate little story book towns! It’s why I moved here from Wichita.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Is Hiawatha Kansas still a functioning enterprise?

Dutchess_III's avatar

I think so. I don’t think I’ve ever been there.

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