Would you rather go to England or Europe?
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September 27th, 2016
Do you take your chances in Europe with all the refugees or play it safe and go to England?
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Europe, because there is a lot more to see, a lot more diversity. And what do you mean with “all the refugees”? You can visit most places in Europe and still not see as much evidence of refugees as you see homeless in San Francisco and Oakland.
At last word, England was in Europe.
However, having been to both, they each have their own pluses and minuses. A couple years ago I went to France; next year I will probably go to Germany. But I very much liked going to the UK and would happily go there again.
Will I worry about the refugees? Not even a little. Why spoil a fine trip with worry?
Are we avoiding refugees? I hope not. They’ve been preparing and serving some fantastic food at local restaurants. I quite like the ME addition to the local food scene.
Oh. Europe or England. Europe. Well, actually, Turkey. Specifically, Istanbul. That’s my bucket list city.
The only place in Europe I would attempt to go is Portugal. I’d go to England but it’s not as much of a draw to me as Portugal. My buddy just came back from Italy and he said it was horrible, refugees everywhere.
I have no interest in Europe, short of maybe Italy. I prefer Vietnam and other exotic destinations. I think Europe is highly over rated.
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I’d go to all of Europe, especially Japan and Kenya. Wonderful places. When it comes to England, I’d totally visit Ireland, especially Dublin.
^^^^ @Sneki95 Whatever you do, if you go to Dublin or anywhere else in the Republic of Ireland, don’t tell them you are glad to be in England. They get touchy about that; they fought a revolution over it.
Take my chances with “all the refugees”? LOL! I was just in Europe, and had no such issues, though there was some increased security… I think for “terror” attacks, not refugees per se. The places I went turned out to be in more danger of earthquake attack than anything else. The only actual damage suffered was from rogue rental car companies trying to rip me off.
“taking my chances with all the refugees”. Ha.
The worst thing I have personally witnessed is some of them not having valid train tickets.
I’m not sure… Probably England… But maybe Europe, instead.
On a related note, do you think questions like this should be posted in Fluther – Social? Or Fluther?
I don’t really understand the Q. Do you mean for a vacation? England or the rest of Europe? Europe is a continent. Are you going to Italy? Russia? Germany?
There are immigrants and refugees in many places around Europe. I wouldn’t avoid a country because of refugees being there. I live in America and we have had millions of refugees from many places for as long as I can remember.
Well, since England just dumped Europe, I would say…....... Scandinavia.
Don’t go to Old England. Go to New England.
<—- Lives in Europe. Had no idea I should be so frightened.
It’s the final countdown…(mother of all earworms)
<—- Lives in Europe also. In England. Had no idea I should feel so safe.
^^I got a little chuckle there. Why is the OP feeling safer in England?
My buddy just came back from Italy and he said it was horrible, refugees everywhere.
Yes, it’s totally abject. Utter chaos. Don’t come here.
(Sorry but there are too many tourists in my little street at the heart of Rome. The less of them the better, especially the OP kind. Let them go to England, please!)
But if you go to England, make sure you are not Polish.
Or the natives might kill you.
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The only way I would visit Italy is in a time machine.
^^ Italy IS a time machine.
Of all the European countries I have visited, Italy was my least favorite. Dirty, noisy, crowded.
Germany (in particular Hamburg) was wonderful, as was Paris.
It’s worth it to go to Italy just for the food.
Why go to Europe or England, when you can go to the western coast of the United States, instead?
@Coloma: It was a fairly mundane joke. I don’t actually see my geographic location as being better or more interesting than the other locations mentioned… But it was fun to imply it. After all, West Coast is Best Coast.
As a European, what I wonder is: Should I go on vaccation to America, or should I play it unsafe and go to the US instead?
The Brits do not see themselves as Europeans. They believe they are special snowflakes.
So they were illegitimate EU members? I knew there was something fishy there…
Many British did see themselves as European. I liked Eddy Izzard ‘s take on it. He learned french and german so he could give his performances in those languages. He’s a pretty special damn snowflake.
The UK youth, primarily, voted to stay in the EU. A pitty the old voted against their own kids’ long term interest. But in any case, the UK has always been in the EU in order to block its development, not to make it work. They won’t be missed.
@olivier5 that indeed is the irony. The UK swayed so much power and used every opportunity to veto that we were indeed special snowflakes. Now that we are leaving, we will have no say whatsoever in Europe and lose the concessions and advantages that our special status conferred on us. So we’ve gone from the best of both worlds to the worst of both. Good job, Brexiteers….
Spain or England?
Well, I’ve never been to Spain
But I kinda like the music
Say the ladies are insane there
And they sure know how to use it
They don’t abuse it
Never gonna lose it
I can’t refuse it
Well, I’ve never been to England
But I kinda like the Beatles
Well, I headed for Las Vegas
Only made it out to Needles
@Stinley Back in the 19th century, universal public education and free press were promoted as necessary conditions for democracy. Vox populi vox dei only works if the people are well informed and well educated. Otherwise it’s mob rule.
Looking at the US and the UK right now, I wonder if they haven’t forgotten those basic principles. They’re under Murdock’s thumb now, and one should not be surprised that people watching FOX and reading trash tabloids would end up voting for Trump or Farage. You can’t dumb down your whole population and expect democracy to lead to good decisions… More often than not, the opposite will happen.
Of course that’s only part of the story. But still, the anti-european, xenophobic rhetoric of the Sun and co did play a role IMHO.
@olivier5 I blame Boris Johnson.
Johnson, sacked by The Times in 1988 for fabricating a quote, made his mark in Brussels not through fair and balanced reporting, but through extreme euro-scepticism. He seized every chance to mock or denigrate the EU, filing stories that were undoubtedly colourful but also grotesquely exaggerated or completely untrue.[...]
Boris Johnson is now campaigning against the cartoon caricature of the EU that he himself created. He is campaigning against a largely fictional EU that bears no relation to reality.
He’s a clown but there’s the broader circus around him, enabling him. The problem is more systemic than just one guy.
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