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Could US nullify the Trump Clinton presidential race and go with Kaine and Pence or whoever else?

Asked by flo (13313points) November 1st, 2016

I know it’s never been done, but could US nullify the Trump Clinton presidential race, (because of what the FBI has done and hasn’t done) and go with Kaine and Pence? How about if Clinton picks kasich or Bloomberg although he didn’t run and Trump would pick let’s say whoever democrat he can live with? Why because each side is thinks the other is a horror for the country.

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Rarebear's avatar

Nope. It doesn’t work that way.

Rarebear's avatar

Because that’s not what it says in the Constitution. There is no precedent for the government to nullify an election, and that’s not how the government works. If the government were to just nullify an election that they’re not happy with then that makes us no better than a dictatorship.

flo's avatar

I didn’t mean the government. Not Obama with executive order from Obama or anything.

Rarebear's avatar

Then what did you mean? This is what you wrote: ” but could US nullify the Trump Clinton presidential race,”

The answer to that is no. The US can not nullify a race.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Describe exactly what you mean by “US”. Who is it precisely that would decide to nullify the election?

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

The electoral college could essentially nullify the election by choosing someone other than the popular vote winner in their states.

Only 24 states have punishments for “faithless” electors (those who do not vote according to the popular vote). And even those are punishments AFTER the deed is done.

Only Michigan and Minnesota prevent the problem, with laws voiding a faithless vote.

Also, if the electoral college doesn’t have 270 votes for one candidate, the decision goes to the House of Representatives.

The House has to choose from the top three candidates by electoral votes. Both Gary Johnson have said they want to win ONE electoral vote, winning third place, to be in the running if the decision goes to the House.

It’s an immensely unlikely scenario, but it’s interesting.

Dutchess_III's avatar

No. If it was going to happen, it would have happened with Bush Jr.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

It did happen with Bush Jr. in 2000.

Cruiser's avatar

Kaine does not have the creds to be President and Bloomberg has failed to get tractions all the times he has put his hat in the higher office political ring…go figure the choices we are faced with is Trump and Hillary…Congress is truly run by Elephants and Jackasses.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Yes. It is called an impeachment. The president has to commit a crime first.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Your scenario is correct according to the law, so you’ve answered your own question.

As to individuals, by voting any other party other than Republican or Democrat in this general election you will be only helping either the R or D candidate get elected. If you’ve defected from Clinton, you will be helping Trump by taking a vote from her, and vice-versa. People who “vote their conscience” in a race like this with so much at stake are complete fucking idiots.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@Call_Me_Jay “It did happen with Bush Jr. in 2000”

Not really. While Gore did receive more popular votes nationwide than Bush the electoral college likewise voted in accordance with the popular vote of each state – just as the system is intended to function.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@RedDeerGuy1 “Yes. It is called an impeachment. The president has to commit a crime first.”

The common misconception is that impeachment equals removal from office. In the United States impeachment by the legislature merely means that the person can then be removed from office, not that they necessarily will be. Bill Clinton, for example, was impeached yet still served a full two terms. Andrew Johnson was also impeached, but was not removed from office and served his full term (though he did not run for a second term). Richard Nixon probably would have been impeached for his role in the Watergate scandal, but he resigned the presidency before the House could vote on impeachment.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

@darth the Supreme Court intervened and 5 justices chose the winner in 2000.

ucme's avatar

Haha, if only eh?

Darth_Algar's avatar

@Call_Me_Jay

Not relevant to the question of the Electoral College.

flo's avatar

Thanks all.
I don’t know, I was just pondering. There must be some way of not letting the country go down the cliff.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@flo

There is, it’s called voting. Unfortunately people don’t use it wisely.

Cruiser's avatar

^^agreed^^

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