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Does Conan, the Barbarian, have the correct attitude towards gods and religion?

Asked by ragingloli (47296points) November 9th, 2016

Especially the last part:
Crom… so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!

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kritiper's avatar

No, he doesn’t. But that last part is as close as he’s gonna get…

Seek's avatar

I think that scene is a fantastic example of Conan taking ownership of his destiny. It’s at that moment he stops worrying about pleasing Crom enough to have His help to avenge his parents. He’s going to avenge his parents with our without Crom, because fuck Thulsa Doom.

Zissou's avatar

It’s more interesting in R.E.Howard’s stories.

…[Crom] dwells on a great mountain. What use to call on him? Little he cares if men live or die. Better to be silent than to call his attention to you; he will send you dooms, not fortune! He is grim and loveless, but at birth he breathes power to strive and slay into a man’s soul. What else shall men ask of the gods?

From Queen of the Black Coast

Zaku's avatar

In his particular context in that film, for him personally, maybe so.

I would however not think that Conan the Barbarian in that film reflects the spiritual orientation, life history, personality, religious background, or situation of very many 21st Century Fluther users.

If it really works for you, though, maybe that’s ok…

Oh and it did seem to work out for Conan, one way or another.

ucme's avatar

Conan the Barber: Scissors of Steel

Berserker's avatar

In the movie yes, as Crom is a watered down version of his badass self from the original stories. In the movie it’s mentioned that there is an afterlife called “Valhalla” which is granted to warriors who know the secret of steel. They don’t say, as far as I recall, what Valhalla is or what you do there, my guess is it is much the same as the Norse mythology place of the same name, but Crom is its guardian. So in the movie it works as there is a follow up to “worshipping” Crom.

But originally as @Zissou says Crom listens to no one and is not a deity to be worshipped, you merely use his gift as he gave it to you. (the gift of kicking erse)

It is also mentioned in the Savage Sword of Conan comics that after life, all you do is walk through mist forever. (I forget if this applies to Crom’s realm only or if everyone in the world ends up there when they die) But Conan makes it clear that he doesn’t want to die because of this, so he fights on. One could say that Crom gives you what you need to survive to enjoy life while you have it, which does not reflect real life religion since the latter teaches you what you need to know to get into shit once you die.

Since gods and religion seem more traditional in the movie, I suppose Conan does have the correct attitude, whether or not Crom wants prayers. (although once in the comics Crom does grant Conan a chance at survival) The gods are also pretty much proven to exist in the movie, or if they’re ideals by people, they are never contested besides those who oppose them.

Berserker's avatar

Also, evrything you need to know about Crom. Unfortunately it’s in french…


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