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How do I resolve my problem? (NSFW, but it happened at work so what can I say)

Asked by snowberry (27644points) March 2nd, 2017

Cockroaches have the same basic needs of all living things. So if one of those are not in adequate supply, life isn’t going to be successful. Now for a rather bizarre (and scary) story to make my point.

I am a security guard. In a large building that I go through daily, there is an unused janitor closet that is being used to store off season supplies such as last year’s Christmas tree, random paper bags full of stuff, and old office equipment.

One day on a whim, I opened it to find some large cockroaches in there. As I am always in a hurry while I am there, I always forgot to mention it to anyone before I left. So time passed, and every few weeks I’d open the closet door to find a few more roaches. Several always lurked in the corners of the ceiling, glaring at me for introducing light into their dark world. I thought it very strange that I never noticed them anywhere else but in that closet (there was a wide crack under the door so they could have left if they wanted to). It was also strange that I never saw any babies. Yet their number kept growing.

People at the front office didn’t seem to take my reports seriously, for there always so many more pressing issues than a janitor closet with bugs in it that never bothered anybody. Those enormous roaches began to haunt my dreams. They always made a rustling noise like mice scurrying out of sight, and I began to realize there were probably a few more in that closet than it appeared.

Then one day an employee opened that janitor closet door. That’s when the maintenance man got involved. Because I’m against the use of poison, I suggested roach traps as a first line of defense. I think they caught one. Weeks passed, with the maintenance man haphazardly trying one futile method after another to get rid of the roaches. The pesticide guy got involved and repeatedly sprayed in there, but the population continued to grow.

Eventually word of the roach problem reached the administrative level, and things got serious. The maintenance man bought a bug bomb and set it off in the janitors closet, but he forgot to seal the crack at the bottom of the door.

“It was like the zombie cockroach apocalypse!,” he said. “They were pouring out from under that door! I think I killed over 300!”

We figured out that the cockroaches were coming up through the drain and they stayed there because there was enough moisture to keep them alive but not enough to reproduce. The maintenance man covered the drain with duct tape, thinking that would be an end to the problem. A few weeks later I checked the closet again. The seal on the duct tape had been broken.

Drains always produce sewer gas, and pressure must have built up in there until the seal popped. Roaches have begun to haunt my dreams again. At this point, just so I can sleep at night, I am trying to think of a way to seal the drain enough to let air through but not roaches.

Does anyone have suggestions for my dilemma? Humor is welcome.

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elbanditoroso's avatar

I’m trying to figure out why this is [NSFW]

snowberry's avatar

@elbanditoroso It all depends on how quickly you are grossed out! I’ve seen people do it before.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, sounds like ideal living conditions for them to me. Old paper, boxes. God I hate roaches, more than any other bug. One time, in this one rental, I plugged in the iron. When it started heating up roaches just poured out of it! It was SO gross. Shudder.
The most effective method I’ve found is this sticky stuff you can buy just about anywhere. It comes in a calking tube. You smear strips on key areas, behind things if you don’t want it seen. The roaches eat it. They stay alive long enough to get back to their nest, where they die. The other roaches eat them and then THEY die. It really works.

Coloma's avatar

Well…according to my research Frogs, Toads, geckos and Iguanas eat roaches happily. I think a couple Iguanas in the closet should do the trick. Toss in chopped veggies and then, when the roaches come out the Iguanas get a second course. Otherwise, i would just use a lot of roach hotels and replace them every week or so when they are full.

snowberry's avatar

Guys, adults are coming through the drain. I’m wanting to permanently seal It up, but to do so I am going to have to install a seal that will allow air to escape (read my story). It also has to be something that will not allow cockroaches through and they can’t be able to chew through it. If they end up living inside the drain, well that won’t matter if they never get out.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Just put a ring of the sticky stuff around and over the drain. You don’t have to seal it up with the stuff. Just make it be the first thing they come across, and eat.

snowberry's avatar

Ok, I’ll try that. Might work….

Dutchess_III's avatar

I know it will work! I think it’s good for 6 months.

ragingloli's avatar

How about a powerful electric shock trap that fries any roach crawling up the pipe?

Seek's avatar

Gel bait, diatomaceous earth, and time.

Poison bombs only chase them from one room to another

ragingloli's avatar

Or even better: a flame thrower trap.

ragingloli's avatar

Some tesla coils placed in strategic positions.

CWOTUS's avatar

Your assumption that “drains produce sewer gases” is actually somewhat faulty.

An unvented drain, yes. A drain with no traps (or with a dry trap, which may also be the case in an otherwise well-maintained and dry area), yes. But those are not the kind of drains you’re likely to be seeing here.

Assuming the building is built “to code” and that the floor drain (I presume) is, in fact, intact and unbroken, the maintenance people should ensure that it’s not dry (and therefore ineffective) by actually using it to drain a few gallons of water at least quarterly. It should be some kind of regular checklist item, like however often they inspect the roof drains to ensure that those are functioning normally, unclogged, etc., they should also “put some water through all of the floor drains” to ensure that the traps are sealed.

If the drain is intact, properly P-trapped and sealed to the rest of the world, then having water in the trap should prevent insect infestation via that route. Snakes may be another issue, but that is another issue.

On the other hand, as we have seen in other parts of the world where “the floor drain” is simply a means to get water and other fluids “through the floor and direct to the outside”, then the requirement is to place a good screen onto the drain (preferably one at the inlet, and another at the outlet) to prevent infestation via that route.

SergeantQueen's avatar

Couldn’t you try duct tape again, but just poke a series of small holes in it?

stanleybmanly's avatar

Boric acid powder

Dutchess_III's avatar

They’ll eat the duct tape. They’ll also find a way to spread throughout the building. They must be KILT!! Die! DIE SUCKER! Why in the hell did Noah allow a pair of ROACHES on the Ark??!1 >_<

SergeantQueen's avatar

Killing cockroaches with peppers
1) Take approximately a tablespoon or so of red or cayenne pepper
2) Mix it with onion and garlic clove, make sure these are crushed up.
3) Boil some water. (about 4 cups)
4) Wait until it cools off, then refrigerate it.
5) Put it in a spray bottle and spray the hell out of where they are coming out of.
Killing cockroaches with ammonia
1) Take 2 cups of ammonia and one cup of water, mix it
2) Put it in a bucket, and scrub all the areas you have found the cockroaches
Killing cockroaches with Pinesol and bleach
1) Boil two cups of Pinesol and two cups of bleach
2) Pour the solution in the areas they have infested.
3) Keep door/window open or leave a fan running, it has a VERY strong smell. Not my favorite method but it works. Wait 20–50 minutes then clean the area.
If all else fails, burn the building down

Cruiser's avatar

I was going to suggest to pour Borax in the drain but @stanleybmanly beat me too it. I think anti freeze in the drain would do the trick too.

Mariah's avatar

Get one of those mesh sink drain covers and duct tape that sucker over the end of the pipe.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I still like my solution. The roaches take it back to the nest and poison the whole nest.

snowberry's avatar

@Dutchess_III there IS no nest.

They appear full grown, which is bizarre. I’m going to try a combination of all of these, minus the super dangerous ones, such @ragingloli gave (thanks anyway, loli. LOL)

Dutchess_III's avatar

There is a nest. You just can’t see it.

Cruiser's avatar

@snowberry Trust me….there is a nest somewhere. Don’t take short cuts, you need exterminator grade poisons that as @Dutchess_III is suggesting that the roaches will take back to their nest. I was given a boombox radio from a friend of my GF and when I got it home I noticed a roach climbing on it. I unscrewed the back and the entire boom box was infested. Hundreds of the fuckers. I immediately tossed that POS in the dumpster.

Dutchess_III's avatar

OMG. And I was actually thinking of eating something again because I was hungry. Vomit.

snowberry's avatar

^^ Ha! See? Its NOT safe for work!

Seek's avatar

@Cruiser – had the same thing happen with a second hand video game console. I buy new now…

snowberry's avatar

From “snowberry the bug lady”, Thanks to all! I’ve taken your suggestions to the administration team, and we have a plan in place. I’ll let you know how it works out.

snowberry's avatar

They have successfully removed the cockroaches. Thanks to all.

By the way, cockroaches don’t have a “nest” such as ants do, where they take food back to a nest for the rest to share. If they do take food back to a nest, it’s by walking through it, and taking bits of it back on their bodies.

These cockroaches had to have a source of water, and that had to be down in that drain, which is where the majority of them were located. The maintenance man stuck a bug bomb head down into the drain and quickly sealed the closet door. He did that twice, and we got them all.

Dutchess_III's avatar

But they do congregate, don’t they? I mean, why do they all come pouring out of the same spot all at once?

snowberry's avatar

Cockroaches like small dark places and moisture. A drain provides both. In our situation I think the drain was simply packed with them and the largest ones could not fit inside. From the time they hatch out of the egg, it’s every roach for itself. They will eat anything from hair to their own feces to each other. They’ll eat anything.

They have no re-proach!

Dutchess_III's avatar

Ha ha!

Well, it’s the healthy ones eating the ones that have been exposed to pesticides that finally kills off the whole population.

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