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Why are Americans who sacrifice themselves hero's while other countries who do it evil?

Asked by RedDeerGuy1 (24462points) May 24th, 2017

Like the hero In the first episode of Independence Day. Where the crop duster crashes his plane with the last missile into the aliens Main weapons. He is a hero, but we don’t extend that thought to foreniers. The aliens are more advanced to the USA as third world are to the USA. makes one think. I’m just wondering. Don’t attack me . I know. I know

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Patty_Melt's avatar

First of all, your example is flawed.
A suicide mission to protect the human race from a outside aggressor is a fictional setting, but in that case it would be heroic.
Japan’s Kamikazi flights were not the same thing. They were the aggressor in that case, making suicide attacks in attempt to make their domain more powerful.
Is there a time you think someone should have been viewed as a hero who was not?

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@Patty_Melt No. Just the swans who defended its sleeping mate from me. Touched me. Some people might argue that USA is interfering In their countries. Trump just sold $120 billion dollars In weapons to Saudi Arabia. I hope that the weapons are not used to persecute other countries . Make other peoples life to suck.

Patty_Melt's avatar

I can see how such an event could evoke certain emotions.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@Patty_Melt Sorry just trying to make a point that one countries hero’s is another’s villains.

stanleybmanly's avatar

It’s only natural and in fact quite necessary that those dying be labeled heroes as opposed to fools. For understandable reasons there must be no questions of motive or necessity from those ordered to “go over there and die.” This holds true as well for the factories manufacturing the cannon fodder. It is truly tragic that good decent people must look at a grave stone and convince themselves that their child, mother, son, father daughter died “defending” the country from Afghanistan, Grenada, Iraq, North Vietnam, etc.

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

Terrorism is such a vague word and really all a matter of perspective. When they attack us, we consider them terrorists. When we drop bombs from drones, they consider us terrorists.
Of course I am not trying to justify what happened in England, but it has been said that he recently traveled to Libya. I wonder what he saw and the stories he heard while he was there.
Former CIA Officer: Listen To Your Enemy, Because ‘Everybody Believes They Are The Good Guy’

Patty_Melt's avatar

You are jumping all over the place. You talk about fictional heroes, swans, and terrorists. You made an edit which changes the meaning, in part, of my answer.
Have a yogurt, and let me know when you have settled on a topic.
Here is one thought.
Giving one’s life to protect another is hero. Losing your life while killing innocent children whether to make a point or not is psycho bullshit.

kritiper's avatar

Americans aren’t the only ones who like the word “hero.” And that word is as misused, as misunderstood, and as misinterpreted as the word “love.”
Aren’t I the hero for pointing that out??? I love it!

Patty_Melt's avatar

You WISH. ^^^^

PullMyFinger's avatar

It’s all about motive, circumstance, and end result.

In the days before the invasion of Normandy, military troops from several countries were clearly told that about one-third of them were not expected to survive it….but the Nazis had to be stopped, so they went anyway.

Those are your real heroes, right there.

In more recent times, if some phony-baloney Commander-in-Chief sells a pile of bullshit to the public (who respond by pumping their fists in the air, yelling “USA !! USA !!”), then their sons and daughters are sent to lose their lives for some vague, completely unnecessary purpose (except to enrich defense contractors), well….

That’s bravery, but not heroism. Still heartbreaking, but something that would be more accurately be described as ‘patriotic gullibility’.....

Zaku's avatar

Why are Americans who sacrifice themselves hero’s while other countries who do it evil?
How is this not obvious? They are not objectively either. It’s a subjective way of relating to those people, and as stated, an awfully America-centric point of view with enormous blind spots (and ripe for exploitation).

Like the hero In the first episode of Independence Day. Where the crop duster crashes his plane with the last missile into the aliens Main weapons. He is a hero, but we don’t extend that thought to foreniers.
LOL, who’s this “we” you are so sure about? And who are “foreniers”. ;-)

Japanese kamikaze pilots were absolutely considered heroes by the Japanese.

One perspective’s freedom fighter is often another perspective’s rebel scum, or terrorist.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

1) We do honor foreign dead, even those among our worst enemies who fought honorably: Rommel is a good example. We also honor the dead of our allies. We honor heros of wars we have not engaged in, including wars that happened long before the US existed.

2) What @Patty_Melt said.

3) Who people don’t honor are other people who torture our POWs or anyone else’s, entities who have an official policy to use civilians as primary targets, use civilians as hostages, and bomb stadiums packed with teenage girls. It doesn’t matter what the cause is at that point or what other great things that entity has done in the past at that point.

4) Fiction is not reality.

rojo's avatar

the hellfire missile and the bomb in the baby carriage accomplish the same thing with devastating results.

kritiper's avatar

@rojo The bomb in the baby carriage destroys tanks???

Lightlyseared's avatar

Depends how you look at it. To the aliens the Americans were terroists.

LostInParadise's avatar

Not sure what you are asking. One side’s hero is the other side’s villain. In the Middle East, there do not seem to be any good guys, just oppressive authoritarian regimes fighting against fanatical terrorists. The dream of the Arab Spring has dissipated.

I am having a hard time feeling any sympathy for terrorists. What do they expect to accomplish by killing innocent civilians? Even if they have some noble goal in mind, which I would also question, the end does not justify the means. Corrupt means have a way of perverting even the most noble of ends.

rojo's avatar

Both are intended to kill people @kritiper. Sorry for the confusion.

Strauss's avatar

It’s been said that one side’s terrorists are the other side’s freedom fighters.

zenvelo's avatar

Custer was considered a hero, but he was a genocidal maniac. It is all a matter of perspective.

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