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Is Donna Karan's fashion line the "asking for it" kind, the opposite kind, or something else?

Asked by flo (10505points) 2 months ago

If it it is neither the “asking for it” kind, nor the opposite kind, what kind is it?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/entertainment/donna-karan-harvey-weinstein/

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Mariah's avatar

No clothing is “asking for it.”

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

I’m not keeping track of the scandal. First I heard about it was your link, and the short video played. I agree with Mariah that no clothing is asking for anything.

But… Fashion (especially at this level)... is purported to help the wearer make a statement. Fashion doesn’t speak. People do.

So I’m left wondering, an honest question. When a person dresses in any manner, what statement are they making? For instance, an army General wears a uniform which helps him broadcast to everyone “I am in charge”. The Bell Hop uniform helps him broadcast “I’m here to serve”.

If a man wears his sleeves rolled up, he’s probably saying “I’m here to work”. If he’s at a nightclub with shirt buttons revealing chest hair and bejeweled necklace, he’s saying “I’m on the prowl”. If he’s wearing tailored suit with wrist bling protruding, he’s claiming to be successful.

I dress differently for different work environments specifically to broadcast what I’ve come to do.

But I don’t equate (necessarily) professional dress of the electric line workers yellow vest and hard hat with the skateboard punker on the street. One is broadcasting a message to others. The other may be broadcasting to others, or just themselves.

Not knowing, or caring how people involved with Weinstein were dressed, or if it played a role in whatever scandal he’s entwined within, I do wonder… honest question what are people broadcasting when they dress in a sexually provocative manner?

Keep in mind, if I suit up, shine my shoes and flash some bling, specifically to broadcast a level of success to whomever I choose, that dress doesn’t necessarily give anyone the right to take advantage of me, or my perceived success. The same should hold true for a woman (or man) that dresses in a sexually explicit manner.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

That depends on what “asking for it” means.

flo's avatar

If I leave my door ajar etc. when I leave it doesn’t mean it should feel entitled/justified to rob me.

RocketGuy's avatar

Having your door ajar makes it a lot easier for bad guys to come in, doesn’t it?

flo's avatar

@RocketGuy It does, for sure.

flo's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies Why does “it doesn’t give anyone the right to take advantage of me….” come into the equation?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Because “it doesn’t give anyone the right to take advantage of me….”

answers, and defines… the “IT” in your question
“Is Donna Karan’s fashion line the “asking for it

Or was your use of “it” to be defined in another way? That’s how I took your “it”… defined as being taken advantage of.

flo's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies No it meaning to the kind of attire. So, (the kind of attire) doesn’t give anyone to take advantantage of me” So, I was responding to your post.
In your post:
”...that dress doesn’t necessarily give anyone the right to take advantage of me, or my perceived success. The same should hold true for a woman (or man) that dresses in a sexually explicit manner.” So, why bring up right or no right?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

I don’t understand your question in the manner described with “it” meaning “kind of attire”.

Is Donna Karan’s fashion line the “asking for (the kind of attire)...?”
Doesn’t make sense to me.

But…

Is Donna Karan’s fashion line “give anyone the right to take advantage of those who wear it)”?.Now that makes sense to me.

flo's avatar

…right to leave door ajar…. Asked and answered right?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

I don’t understand what you’re talking about flo.

Door ajar is from someone else. Your definition of “it” doesn’t make sense to me.

Above, I gave a thoughtful answer in the way I understood the question.

flo's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies You have the right to step on banana pills so make sure you do.

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RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Banana pills?

Seriously, you ask me why one of my comments “come into the equation”?

So what do “banana pills” have to do with anything?
I don’t even know what a banana pill is. What are you talking about flo?

flo's avatar

Edited to add:
@RealEyesRealizeRealLies What did you do to yourself with your last paragraph in your 1st post? You start out by making sense in your 1st few paragraphs i.e
Night is when you need artificial light,
and then in your last paragraph,
but night is when you don’t need artificial light

And then in your last paragraph, I can’t see that it’s a typo, that @Flo must mean _peel not pill.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Please don’t insinuate that my comments are about night or light flo.
I didn’t say anything about night or light.

Thank you for correcting your typo.

Please explain what banana peels have to do with this thread.
Please explain what night or light have to do with this thread.

I’ve explained in detail and asked for clarification on definition of your use of the word “it”.

Please tell me if you would have requested my comments to be removed as unhelpful, had I first been the one to speak of banana peels or night, or light.

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