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Aster's avatar

What is your opinion of this show of wealth ? Fine or disgusting?

Asked by Aster (20023points) November 1st, 2017

There is a billionaire couple living in Upstate New York in a huge, solid granite mansion with forty dogs. They have their own dog room with matching leopard looking beds. Next door to this house is a large lot with an historic, frame home on it. The couple wanted a place for their dogs to play and use the bathroom so they bought the lot, had the house torn down, fenced it, HEATED THE GRASS and had. a doggy door leading from the dog room to the lot. Now the dogs can play out there and go to the bathroom without getting their paws cold. How do you feel about this? They give lavishly to charities and have many friends and enemies so he drives a bullet proof car. The Historical Society, of course, was furious when they won in court to be able to level the old home .

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RedDeerGuy1's avatar

I would be willing to sniff the billionaires nuts and fetch for such a life.

elbanditoroso's avatar

Their money. They can do what they want. None of my business.

I have my own life to live – I am not about to tell someone else how they should live theirs.

canidmajor's avatar

I think they probably employ many people, that is not a bad thing.

rebbel's avatar

Cold grass, tickling your balls, is not a nice thing, so yeah, yay doggos!

flutherother's avatar

This just confirms my feeling that no one should be permitted to be a billionaire. Instead of giving money to charity they should be taxed more.

josie's avatar

To each his own I guess.
Seems sort of bourgeois to me, but at least they see fit to also give to charity.
It would make me sort of self conscious. But I did not grow up that way, so it figures I don’t quite get it.
All I want at this moment is peace in my life. But I wouldn’t say no to billions either.

The one thing I want to say is about the dogs. Dogs are not little human beings in a furry suit. They are critters. Lovable, and fun to be sure, but I don’t like seeing domestic animals treated as if they are human. In my opinion it is sort of weird, and in some cases it is demeaning to the dog.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Especially when they try to feed them, or their cats, on some specialized human diet, like vegan @josie.

marinelife's avatar

Why are their choices any worse than anyone else’s? They have the money. It is up to them.

Aster's avatar

She spends a lot of time taking them to the vet . They have yearly checkups and she makes their food herself from big bags of ground beef and ground chicken. I don’t know the entire recipe; just that she cooks their food. They could also receive supplements. I just don’t know.

Mariah's avatar

It’s their money and I can’t really judge how they use it etc but I am just disgusted that we live in a society where some people can afford to heat their grass for their dogs while other people live on the streets or die because they can’t afford to see a doctor. There shouldn’t be such vast inequality.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Fortunately for billionaires most people do not understand that obscene wealth is impossible without corresponding endemic poverty. Understandably no one is funding studies to determine just how many folks must be shoved into destitution to prop up a single billionaire, but the rise of both classes are always right in step with one another til the arrival
of the pitchforks and barricades.

Aster's avatar

@Mariah I hear ya (as they say). Such is life in the real world.

Dutchess_III's avatar

It’s their money and their time. If I had a billion dollars I migh do stuff that others would think was ridiculous.

Zaku's avatar

I wouldn’t mind except for the historic house. That part seems wrong. I don’t mind them keeping 40 dogs happy and heating grass, but if it was an interesting historic house that a historical society was speaking up for (not to mention defending in court) then they should not have been allowed to destroy it.

Love_my_doggie's avatar

I’m all for kindness to animals. Upstate N.Y. has brutal winters; if an eccentric billionaire can give good lives to 40 dogs, and keep them warm and comfortable to boot, the thought makes me smile.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

Our mentally unstable President could incinerate us all in nuclear hell at any moment. I am not going to spend a single second more than it takes to type this thinking about these people and their dogs.

Aster's avatar

@Hawaii_Jake that’s fine but are you going to spend a lot of time answering other questions knowing that Trump could incinerate us all at any moment?

Dutchess_III's avatar

I am not going to let Trump control my emotions.
If you think it’s not worth discussing then just scroll on by @Hawaii_Jake. A response from you is not required, you know.

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Dutchess_III's avatar

OK. I just sent 3 huge boxes of cotton, right out of the field, to a multi millionaire because she says the craft cotton at Hobby Lobby is too expensive! LOL!

canidmajor's avatar

@Dutchess_III, are you all right? Your last few posts are way out there…

Dutchess_III's avatar

No, I really did! I mailed off 3 boxes of raw cotton to my cousin who won 90 million in the Washington lottery!
I was trying to get back on the topic of wealthy people because I accidentally started to derail it with the blowing up of a 3 ton whale in 1970, which is also true. The whale was a response to @Hawaii_Jake comment. I thought the whale might take his mind off of Trump trying to kill us all.

Kropotkin's avatar

I think taxes on the rich are too low. That’s all I got from this.

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seawulf575's avatar

I would have to ask why it matters. People spend their money on many goofy things in my view. But not everyone shares my view. They might see that they have plenty of money and they love their dogs and want to do nice things for them. I have a good friend that never had children and her dogs fill that void. Ok. Is a billionaire spending money on things like this any worse than an addict spending money on drugs instead of food? Do we look down our noses at them since they are even more wasteful and can’t afford it or do we cut them slack? They have the money, they get to do whatever they like with it.

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Hawaii_Jake's avatar

For those who do not understand, let me explain the meaning of my answer above.

In life, we all get to choose what we will spend our time paying attention to and what we won’t. Above, I mean to draw attention to the pettiness of worrying about money a rich person is spending on their dogs. In my opinion, it’s not worth thinking about.

I live within range of North Korean nuclear missles. That fact is indeed worth my worry.

I actually don’t spend much time thinking about it, because it would drive anyone insane. I go about my life, but in the back of my mind, the notion that an imbecile who happens to be the president could cause my death by horrific means is always present.

This is the way mature individuals create a sense of stability in their lives in the midst of chaotic circumstances. We carefully choose what to give our attention to and what to merely acknowledge and what to ignore.

I will now ignore this thread.

Dutchess_III's avatar

LOL! Maybe it is in social! I just realized they only mention which site it’s in by the “Answer this question” when it’s in General.

I wonder how they clean up after all those dogs. I guess they hire someone to come in and do it for them.

Rich people do all kinds of things that seem crazy to me. I don’t know how some rich people can have such poor taste in furnishings and decor, like Trump. My sister has quite a bit of money, but I swear, she still has a cheap Japanese paper fan on her wall. She had it back when we lived together in an apartment in Wichita in the late 70’s. When Mom passed she took her really, super nice antique dinner table, but stuck it in the garage because HER dining table is an Ethan Alan!! She just gushed over that table when she got it. It may be an expensive table but it totally lacks any charm. Her huge house just looks cheap.
I honestly don’t think I’d build a giant huge house or do anything more eccentric than, say, buying an island and flying you guys to it to par-tay.

CWOTUS's avatar

“I am opposed to millionaires, but it would be dangerous to offer me the position.”
– Mark Twain

Don’t forget that ‘millionaires’ in his day were today’s multi-billionaires.

Adagio's avatar

@Aster What I actually find hilarious about this story is your use of the term go to the bathroom”. Dogs go to the bathroom,really??? My dog used to pee on the grass. Mind you, she was never a flashy bitch.

johnpowell's avatar

If I had the cash I would have a bowling alley in my house and a machine that sprayed chicken strips into my mouth. I am a simple man.

I have no idea what these people did to get this wealthy. I would assume many were exploited as the cash flowed up. That pisses me off but I can deal with it.

It does piss me off that my sister is going to get so fucked if “The Cut Cut Cut Plan,” or CCCP for short goes though. 401K fucked, local and state tax exemption gone, mortgage deduction neutered. This would be the difference between them affording their house and not.

But we got to kill the estate tax so your pups have a warm place to piss.

wilma's avatar

Except for destroying the historical home, I don’t care how they pamper their dogs. They can blow their money however they want.

flutherother's avatar

Wealth aside, I think owning dogs comes with certain responsibilities such as taking them for regular walks and throwing sticks for them. Providing a yard/toilet with heated grass is no substitute. The very thought of this yard with 40 dogs crapping on the heated grass makes me feel slightly ill.

canidmajor's avatar

Do we know that the dogs weren’t played with regularly? Do we know that the “historic frame house” wasn’t a crumbling old wreck? So many suppositions are being made here based on @Aster‘s fairly vague details.

Can you link to an article or some form of verification, @Aster? So much speculation, so little information.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@canidmajor – good comment. But you’re missing the main point – this is a great opportunity to show righteous indignation. That’s got to be worth something…

janbb's avatar

Hey dogs! Get off of my lawn!

canidmajor's avatar

Hahaha, well, OK, @elbanditoroso, I will change my attitude to righteously indignated!

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

I am investing in guillotine and lamp post futures.

Aster's avatar

@canidmajor I want to protect their privacy meaning their identities. But I can produce some more details if you wish concerning the old house? That what you want?

jonsblond's avatar

I think it’s pretty cool if the dogs were adopted.

Aster's avatar


The controversial demolition of a 19th-century home adjacent to the mansion, so the land could be incorporated into their property, pitted some neighbors against the couple in a long-term standoff. Several refuse to speak to the couple and have posted for years purple lawn signs that read, “Protect Our Historic Homes.”
“I try to be a good neighbor, but they still won’t talk to us,” she said. “If my dogs bark, I’ll send them flowers. There are other dogs in the neighborhood that bark too. The guy on the corner knocked down a house on his property. But nobody cared about him.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I never walk my dogs. They get all the exercise they need by running around in the yard, chasing squirrels.

canidmajor's avatar

@Aster, you’re protecting their identity? From whom? From us? Is this a personal thing to you? You provided something in quotes. Where is it quoted from? Your details, without some kind of corroboration mean nothing.
Again, the “historic structure” could have been a lead-and-mold-filled crumbling wreck.

Wouldn’t your question have been easier if you had simply said “Don’t you just disapprove of folks who have lots of money?”

Dutchess_III's avatar

Pretty sure of it was a crumbling wreck the the Historical Society wouldn’t have been infuriated.

canidmajor's avatar

Where do you live? New England is full of crumbling wrecks that local Historical Societies are practically wedded to. My friend inherited a property from his family with an old house that had been literally condemned by the city. The Historical Society managed to legally prevent him from demolishing it. He could do nothing about it as long as the injunction was in place. They wanted him to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars restoring it to the original plans around the two chimneys. He finally gave up and quit-claimed (or equivalent) it to the next heir in line. I have no idea what happened to it after that.
This is not an unusual case.

You are naïve about how these things really work.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Thanks for the information.

Last sentence was unnecessary.

Zaku's avatar

With a billion dollars, they could easily have full-time staff to entertain the dogs and pick up their poop.

Aster's avatar

@Zaku pick up what poop? You mean in the dog room? No way these people would allow dogs to cover those floors with feces from forty dogs and the dogs could not poop on the lot next door since these people did not own it until recently.

Dutchess_III's avatar

You wouldn’t believe what some people allow. I’ve walked in houses that reeked of dog crap and urine and actually saw piles of old, hardened dog shit on the floor.

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