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Aren't the people who say they are appalled, disgusted, outraged (and all the other fashionable adjectives) over the recent wave of sexual misconduct accusations, just like the Vichy cop in Casablanca?

Asked by josie (30926points) November 30th, 2017

My grandfather, and my dad, liked the movie Casablanca. Therefore, I have seen it about 20 times. Actually I like it too. I sort of identify with guys like Rick Blaine.
Anyway, there is a scene where the Vichy cop closes the club on the false pretext that he is “shocked-shocked-to find that gambling is going on here”.
I bet this made people laugh when they saw the movie because they knew that was total bullshit and thus the cop was an asshole (he redeems himself later in the movie)
Nowadays, people say they are shocked-shocked to find that guys in power positions are using it to get girls (or guys as the case may be). As if they didn’t know this stuff goes on all over Washington and Hollywood. As if that isn’t why most of them aspired to be politicians, movie and TV celebrities etc.
I think a lot of the outrage is fake and bullshit.
Ok to call out the perpetrators. But while you’re at it, why not call out the people who are like the Vichy cop in Casablanca. I think if I were a reporter, I would ask them if they would swear to God that they had no idea.

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chyna's avatar

Good question. I was thinking about this as I read some of the things Matt Lauer was accused of and to which he pretty much admitted to.
I thought of his co-workers sad and crying on air, saying they had been family for over 20 years and had no idea.
I call bullshit. I’ve worked at my other job for 30 years and knew those people inside out. I knew their flaws, which buttons to push, and that one of the managers was a perv that chased young interns that worked for us.
If his coworkers didn’t know, they weren’t close or weren’t paying attention to what was going on around them.

zenvelo's avatar

When a self-proclaimed serial abuser castigates others for this behavior, but thinks his own actions are acceptable and proof of his manhood, then yes, it is as hypocritical as Captain Renault being shocked.

I, too, was taken aback by some of the crocodile tears over Matt Lauer, especially after Katie Couric (America’s darling daughter/sister) back in 2009 said he used to pinch her ass all the time. And then I found out he had a switch under his desk to lock his door.

rojo's avatar

I look at Charlie Rose and Matt Lauer and how they were actually reporting on such things just weeks ago and I wonder what they thought at the time.

Then I think of all the past laws put forth by politicians and the feinted outrage and wonder, nay believe, if such is just a way of covering up their own guilt.

flameboi's avatar

100000 points for the reference.

All I think of every time a new person is accused of sexual misconduct is this ff to min 2:13 if you don’t want to see the whole thing…

rojo's avatar

^^Enjoyed the video !

LostInParadise's avatar

There are plenty of people who have acknowledged they knew what was going on. The term casting couch has been around for quite a while. If a person knows what is going on and is not in a managerial position, what are they supposed to do?

filmfann's avatar

As if that isn’t why most of them aspired to be politicians, movie and TV celebrities etc.

I know 2 people who became politicians, and 1 who became a movie star, and I can assure you none of them did it for more female attention.

josie's avatar

@filmfann

Didn’t say all.
I said most.

Pinguidchance's avatar

@josie “Nowadays, people say they are shocked-shocked to find that guys in power positions are using it to get girls… As if that isn’t why most of them aspired to be politicians, movie and TV celebrities etc”.

The fox follows it’s own scent.

filmfann's avatar

@josie. You said most. The people I know make it 0–3.

josie's avatar

@filmfann

Which proves nothing
I could say that most people in prison are there because they are guilty of a crime
You could say you know 3 who are not.
And you would be correct.
And so would I
That’s all I have to say about that

filmfann's avatar

I can’t argue with a closed mind.

Pinguidchance's avatar

So your contention is that most men were inspired to achieve powerful positions in order to get girls.

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