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elbanditoroso's avatar

@ragingloli – link doesn’t work

elbanditoroso's avatar

It has all indications of being authentic, although if I were a faker I would try to make it as authentic as possible. But it smells authentic,

I believe that the AAV was likely an alien craft of some sort.

I also think that the US knows a whole lot more about UFOs than it is telling civilians.

ragingloli's avatar

I find it dubious that all the names but one were blacked out.
Dubious because the one name that was not blacked out, is the person who fist made the claim.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@ragingloli – I’m not so sure that disqualifies it. They guy who made the claim has to be named. or it would have been tossed out from the start. The other names are irrelevant to civilians.

The only thing that catches my eye that would make it fake would be the absence of stamped viewing restrictions, like TOP SECRET or NO FORN or CLASSIFIED. I would have expected some sort of secrecy stamp on the document. But maybe there is on the first page (which we don’t have).

THe punched holes on the left – notebook binder holes – add to the possibility that it is true.

LadyMarissa's avatar

I’ve heard rumors of aliens all my life. I’ve also heard of many official reports that the government denied. Although this one looks like it “might be” real, it might be a really good fake. I always felt that since humans were on earth that there might be other life forms out there somewhere. The Bible says that Adam & Eve were the first 2 humans & they produced Cain & Abel (both males). When Cain & Abel got married, the Bible says that they married “women from other lands”. Since there were only 4 humans living on earth, where were these “other lands”??? I’ve always believed in the “possibility” of aliens & I used to hope I’d see one before I died. Now I m not as interested because I don’t want to be grouped into the “crazies” bunch who say they have been abducted & returned. Does this document convince me of their existence? Not really. It sounds official & it appears to be official; however, it’s lacking something that I just can’t put my finger on!!!

I don’t think it’s going to happen in my lifetime, but the government will tell us when THEY are ready & will continue the coverup until then!!! My other thought is…IF they are intelligent enough to travel here & we’re NOT intelligent enough to travel to them, WHY would they be interested in getting to know us better???

flutherother's avatar

I don’t think this document is an official release and Major Audricia Harris, official spokesperson for the D0D, was not able to confirm its authenticity.

“The document itself does not, in any way, resemble a report prepared by the Pentagon or any branch of the U.S. Military. Although there are many types of report and briefing formats, and they vary from agency to agency, there are still common characteristics that you will find in documents such as this.

The most obvious, to me, is a lack of any classification stamp or header/footer. It is noted in Mr. Knapp’s story the document was “unclassified” — however, most “unclassified” documents still contain the identifying marks to stipulate the classification level of the document. Of course, there are exceptions and mistakes, but this is a sign it was probably not prepared by the Pentagon, or it would contain such a classification level stamp or mark.

Second, there are no headers, contracts numbers or any cover page. Most, if not all, reports of this nature contain a cover page identifying what the information in the report is, what it refers to, what contract it pertains to, etc. In these examples cited here, from different time frames and agencies, they both have cover pages and reference pages about what the reports are about. This is another indication this document in question, is not official.

Third, the names are blacked out with the exception of Commander David Fravor. At first, I noted this as being suspicious, but later got clarification that Mr. Knapp was the one who did the redaction, based on a tweeted comment he posted on Twitter. Although that explains the discrepancy, it does bring up another fact, and that is, nothing about the document’s release is close to being “official” or “by the book.”

Under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), when documents such as these are released, ALL names are redacted/blacked out. This is due to FOIA exemption (b)(6) which stipulates that for privacy reasons, names (and other personally identifiable information) are redacted to ensure their identities remain private. Whomever gave this document to Mr. Knapp, obviously did not care to conceal identities of those mentioned, and I think Mr. Knapp deserves credit for taking the step to ensure these names remain outside the public domain (except Commander Fravor who has gone public).”

This came from the Black Vault website

PS You can see a clip of David Fravor interviewed by Fox News here

stanleybmanly's avatar

from the link that worked I saw no indication of any assignment of authorship to anyone. What i find interesting is that in the list assessing the performance capabilities of the objects the final attribute is about underwater performance which is to be found nowhere in the narrative of the paragraph above.

Zaku's avatar

.Authentic what? What sort of document does the person presenting it claim that it is?

If someone mentioned in it is presenting it and claims it is a government document, do they not say what sort of document it is? Answers to questions like that would go a long way to showing how authentic it is or not.

Without information that it’s a particular sort of document, it could be authentic . . . science fiction.

If they say they can’t or won’t say what sort of document it is or how they got it, but insist it’s a real account by “someone” then that adds another anomalous unidentified mystery entity: the author. And without any information about that, it doesn’t really indicate X-File or that it’s not just invented.

If it were a believable account, then sure, super-duper Tic Tac screams “aliens”.

NomoreY_A's avatar

Where did you access that? From whom, and when? Some men in black suits will be visiting you very soon. Uh, I mean to say it’s all bollocks. ; )

NomoreY_A's avatar

By the way, is that Ancient Aliens dude still having a bad hair day? Haven’t watched it lately.

MrGrimm888's avatar

I actually read about this on FOX news, the other day. As with most accounts about UFOs, it could easily be fake.

I found the story very interesting. It reminded me of the footage from the fighter jet that was released recently. That seems authentic…

Of it’s a real aircraft, I would propose that it is indeed an alien craft, or US military in nature. Aircraft carrier groups have just about the most sensitive radar capabilities of anything on the planet. I think of you’re testing the stealth capabilities of a prototype, you can’t find a better test.

Keep in mind that US military technologies, are often far more advanced than anything the public is exposed to. It can be decades ahead of known technology. I personally wouldn’t be surprised if it was a military vehicle.

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