Was the latest attack on the ACA premeditated?
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June 12th, 2018
The clause of the ACA that protects people with pre-existing conditions from discrimination has long been one of its most popular provisions. Trump and many Republican Congresspeople have claimed that they intend to keep it in place.
Now there is a lawsuit headed by the Attorneys General of 20 red states looking to overturn it. The argument is that now that the individual mandate is repealed (as part of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017) the protections for people with pre-existing conditions must be too, as these clauses are considered “inseverable.”
The DOJ has a constitutional mandate to defend laws that are on the books, but Trump’s DOJ refused to defend the ACA in court. The case will now move to the SCOTUS.
My main question is, do you suppose this was premeditated? Surely lawmakers understood that repealing the individual mandate might have this consequence, and they did not have to repeal the mandate if they really were as supportive of the pre-ex clause as they claimed to be.
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The quick collusion of all these governments is all the proof you’ll ever need of obvious premeditation. But take heart. I believe that this time the insult to the people effected is so severe that the politicians behind it may well self destruct.
Could just be more deflection tactics. Something juicy, to take our attention from the hardest blows coming for the investigation. Trump, and his representatives have been trying to force the investigation to end. Giving false time limits for the end of the investigation. Mueller is getting closer to the bigger fish. The Republicans will now get real nasty, trying to protect the worst of the worst.
Giving the American people something else to put their efforts into, could help the GOP do the abhorrent things necessary to finally stop the investigation.
People can only protest so much, and resources aren’t limitless for the resistance. Spread them out, and keep the misinformation, and discrediting going. Soon, there’ll be so much shit spraying from the fan, all we can do is grab an umbrella.
Of course it was, this has been in their back pocket for a couple years, sort of as a last ditch plan. Lawsuits don’t spring up like mushrooms. This had been planned for at least since before Obama left office..
You can’t trust ANY politician!!!
You think insurance companies are ok with leaving pre-existing conditions on the books? Selling the ACA and then walking back all the bait has likely been planned since day 1. It’ll predictably vector through the red states but I suspect we have corporate interests playing both sides of the field here. We can blame politicians but I think we all know who is really pulling the strings.
I absolutely think they knew exactly what they were doing.
One comment about pre-existing conditions and the ACA. I very much support pre-existing not being a consideration for attaining health insurance, but the government needs to also not allow insurance companies to evaluate plan costs by sectioning out those in the ACA marketplace and those outside. The ACA compliant insurance is sky high, while there is other insurance that isn’t, because it doesn’t comply, offered by the same insurance company.
You, @Mariah, actually probably don’t deal with it directly I’m assuming, because you get insurance through your employer. Even if ACA had never existed or disappears, as long as your employed with the larger companies you have been, you would be covered. Although, smaller companies that would not be the case necessarily, but it’s not the case with ACA really either. I own a small company, we don’t offer health insurance, and I have no idea if my employees take out insurance, my guess is they probably don’t.
The system is still awful. Much more needs to be done.
@Mariah Oh, I agree. When I started working for Bloomingdales back in 1990 I had to wait 6 months to start using their employee offered medical insurance. They didn’t even exclude pre-existing, they just excluded everyone. Actually, I’m thinking management probably didn’t have to wait, I was hired as a salesperson.
Yeah I won’t make it 6 months without insurance. This is fucked.
It bothers me that living in this country grows increasingly unjust for all but the well moneyed. And most of these injustices are not only tolerated but encouraged for the simple reason that they facilitate the transfer of wealth. The fact that the sheep continue to be shorn with nary a clue as to why renders me nearly apoplectic. People need to understand that the rising unaffordability of basic human needs—housing, health care, education—this phenomenon is just a roundabout way of telling you YOU ARE GETTING POORER.
I don’t know many (any at all) people who are well off enough not to have to consider healthcare cost these days. That says a lot.
I am fortunate in every way besides health. I make great money. But I would need an emergency fund of $1,000,000 or more in order to be safe from the effects of losing my insurance. Believe it or not I don’t have that lying around at age 26.
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