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How will history textbooks reflect the Trump years? How will school curricula in Germany and France differ from school curricula in the US?

Asked by elbanditoroso (33146points) July 24th, 2018

I’m thinking 10–20 years in the future.

A US History (or World History) textbook in Europe, I would think, is going to have an entirely different outlook on the Trump years and his foreign policy than a US history textbook published in the US.

What does that mean for future diplomacy and world affairs if educated people around the world learn two completely different interpretations of American history in the early 2000s?

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zenvelo's avatar

”...people around the world” already learn two completely different interpretations.

Actualy more than two interpretations. And there isn;t even agreement on US histroy wohin the United States.

And we aren’t talking just US history, but world history.

Yellowdog's avatar

10–20 years into the future there will still be strong opinions reflecting much like the opinions of today. Keep in mind, Reagan and Bush were longer ago than that.

But some significant things will emerge from this era.

First of all, Hillary Clinton as being close to becoming the first female president, and the electoral college. And the shock of election night.

Secondly, how sharply divided the nation was. This may be the end of the old Republican and Democrat parties—they will be transformed through this. Younger people see nothing wrong with socialism. A Democratic Socialist party will likely emerge, as will a more moderate Democrat party, and a Populist party which will resemble an independent party The Republican party will dwindle . There may be a Tea party as well.

Trump will be remembered for being rather harsh and uncouth and tough on tariffs with his ’ Put America First’ policies.
The extremacy of ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ will probably be well documented—as there are people who really believe they are living in times similar to the Holocaust.

Andrew McCabe, the Strzok / Paige emails, Peter Strzok, James Comey, and several others will be remembered for weaponizing the nations intelligence to sway an election, and whatever the outcome of the Russia Collusion hype, will make the books, as will the politicalization of the ‘Free’ Press.

We will probably always have the same kind of media we have now, so nothing historic there. But this is probably the first time the media has sharply divided the nation for political reasons. Its always been this way since the Goldwater years, but I think we are near Civil War division right now, and this era will be remembered as such.

American or Global I doubt the textbooks will be that different. Social Media will make the international locations and viewpoints pretty familiar to everyone.

LostInParadise's avatar

It all depends on how things turn out. If the combination of regressive taxes and trade wars causes the economy to boom, and if North Korea disarms and Iran is crushed by sanctions, then Trump will be regarded as a saint. The right wing will be in firm control for years to come. If none of these things come to pass, Trump will be regarded as a national embarrassment, a hopefully one off incident, leading to the rise of the progressive wing of the Democratic party.

rebbel's avatar

George Washington
The first President unified the new nation and shaped the chief executive’s duties. He refused to run for a third term.
On their wedding day, Martha Washington gave him a miniature portrait of herself. He wore it on a chain around his neck until his death 40 years later.

Thomas Jefferson
Considered the most brilliant President, he wrote the Declaration of Independence, founded the University of Virginia, and was an architect, a farmer, and a scientist.

Abraham Lincoln
Lincoln led the Union into the Civil War to preserve the nation and end slavery. He was assassinated just five days after the Confederate armies surrendered.
Polls show that Lincoln is the most admired President.

Warren G. Harding
Harding died in office, just as massive corruption in the Teapot Dome scandal was about to become public.
Harding’s election was the first in which women voted.

Franklin D. Roosevelt
Roosevelt led the nation during the Great Depression of the 1930s and to victory in World War II (1941–1945). He also greatly expanded the size and role of the federal government through his New Deal social programs.
Roosevelt is the only President elected four times.

John F. Kennedy
In 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union hovered on the brink of nuclear war during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Kennedy eventually forced the Soviets to back down. He was assassinated in the third year of his term.

Ronald W. Reagan
Reagan is credited with reviving national pride after the turmoil of the 1960s and 1970s. He enjoyed great popularity, though his conservative policies were controversial.
Reagan is the only President to survive after being wounded by a would-be assassin.

William (Bill) J. Clinton
When he was 16, Clinton met President Kennedy at the White House. The experience inspired his interest in politics.
Clinton achieved goals such as passage of the NAFTA trade agreement and cuts in the budget deficit. But his popularity was uneven and his second term was marred by scandal, including impeachment.

George W. Bush
Just eight months after being sworn in, President Bush had to unite a mournful country after the September 11th terrorist attacks. A self-proclaimed wartime commander-in-chief, President Bush, like his father, led the United States into war against Iraq.

Barack Obama
Barack Obama gained national recognition after he delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in 2004. He served as the U.S. Senator for Illinois from 2005 to 2008.
Barack Obama is the first African American president of the United States.

Дональд Трамп
Дональд Трамп был бизнесменом, который начал свою карьеру в сфере недвижимости. Позже он стал реальностью телевизионной личности.

Он первый президент, который ранее не занимал государственные должности или не служил в армии.

ragingloli's avatar

I can already picture the history teacher in the colonies:
T: “Let’s sum up. This year we explored the failure of democracy – how the social scientists brought our world… to the brink of chaos. We talked about the veterans, how they took control… and imposed the stability that has lasted for generations since. You know these facts… but have I taught you anything of value this year? Hmm? You. Why are only citizens allowed to vote?”
P: “It’s a reward, what the Federation gives you for doing Federal Service.”
T: “No. No. Something given has no value. Look, when you vote, you are exercising political authority. You’re using force. And force, my friends, is violence, the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived.”

Zaku's avatar

Trump will be remembered as an idiot puppet of the corporate / megawealthy acquisition of the US government, and like Reagan, another huge advance in the realization that a distracting idiot can be used as the token representative – no need to pretend there are actual intelligent representatives of the people in any credible way – in fact, you get to cash in big-time by having such a blatant farce.

flutherother's avatar

I don’t agree and I think European and US views of Trump will tend to converge. Trump’s “fake news” will be as famous as Henry Ford’s “history is bunk” and no one will remember anything else he said.

MollyMcGuire's avatar

His presidency will be remembered as a successful about-face for America. That will make it into the history books.

ragingloli's avatar

“history books”.
Just imagine what that “history book” would read, had Hitler won the war.

janbb's avatar

The victors write the history books so the die is still out.

flutherother's avatar

He will be remembered forever by the Donald J Trump Library of Collected Tweets, sometimes known as “The Covfefe Collection”.

janbb's avatar

Mixed my metaphor; too late to edit. “The die is not yet cast” or “the jury is still out.”

ScienceChick's avatar

In Europe it will probably read something like, ‘The steady erosion of their own constitution lead to a police state and gradual escalations of violence blamed on counter protesters (anti-fa) and terrorists (Muslims) which eventually lead to the call for a State of Emergency after the explosion in the Capital building, taking out the Congress and Senate wasn’t questions. Nobody ever found out who was responsible. The country now exists fractured. See: http://the-handmaids-tale.wikia.com/wiki/Republic_of_Gilead

Inspired_2write's avatar

They very well may hail him as the person who Made America Broke!

stanleybmanly's avatar

We can only pray that the Trump era will remain the low water mark in Presidential history. The Donald will be the guy folks point to in future debates on the people’s capacity for self governance. Here’s hoping he remains the paradigm rebuttal of the validity of the concept.

Jaxk's avatar

!½ years into hiss presidency, there is little to conclude. I’m sure this era will be marked as turbulent but the over all term is currently looking like prosperity and a realignment of our trading partners. If the democrats seize power we may see the end of our country as we know it and a slow sink into socialism. It’s hard to tell at this point but Trump was elected to change things and changes are coming fast and furious. Hopefully, it’s not too late to right the ship.

ragingloli's avatar

I doubt the colonies will have history books any longer.
Only Betsy Davos approved indoctrination material, singing the praises of Dear Leader.

Yellowdog's avatar

We are likely to see 5% GPD this Friday. That’s twice as high as Obama ever reached in all his eight years, and Obama said we would never see above 3%—he wanted to know “what magic wand Trump has” to get back to 3–4 percent.

So how are some of you saying Trump made America broke?

rojo's avatar

Pretty sure they will mention Benghazi and the ongoing search for missing emails that still dominate the political landscape to this date.

LostInParadise's avatar

@Yellowdog , In what alternate reality do you see 5% growth? This article talks about 4% growth and predicts it is not likely to last, and this link says that there may be a recession in the near future. Trump is talking about giving farmers 12 billion dollars to bail them out of their declining sales due to the trade wars. That is not going down well among fellow Republicans. Link

janbb's avatar

@Yellowdog The party of fiscal responsibility’s tax cuts are forcing us to borrow a trillion dollars next year to meet the budget. How is that going to play out in the long term even if corporate owners are making much more money now?

flutherother's avatar

The Department of History at Trump University is planning to rewrite the entire history of the world as a series of pamphlets. Each pamphlet will be signed by Trump as a guarantee of quality and the complete set of fourteen will cost $1,759. Cheques should be made payable to D Trump at the White House, USA.

Yellowdog's avatar

There will be no trade wars with the EU.

rebbel's avatar

C’mon, you’re not really buying this crap, right?
No trade war wit the EU…
Of course no trade war with the EU, because there was no reason for a trade war with the EU.
Would be disastrous for both parties, EU and USA alike.
But here’s how this works, in my opinion.
Nothing is the matter (in a certain situation/agreement/pact).
Trump throws a tweet into the world that from now on its war, or the agreement is off, unilaterally, or the leader of that one country is not to be trusted no more, or is “fill in any offending qualification here”.
His followers cheer, because he ‘shows balls/strength’.
Next day he reverses all he said before.
His followers cheers, because he ‘prevented a (trade) war’.
And still you can’t see it, even it was staring you in the eyes.

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