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Dutchess_III's avatar

Does it make a difference that we didn't know ahead of time?

Asked by Dutchess_III (42270points) August 16th, 2018

We didn’t know Nixon was a crook or that Clinton was a philanderer when we voted them in, but we knew well ahead of time that Trump is all of those things, and worse, and yet “we” still voted him in?
What has changed about our country that we can justify our actions?

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ragingloli's avatar

Because the Orangutan was so obviously unfit for any kind of position of power, people thought there was no way he could win.
Even the extreme right wingers on this site said, that he would definitely lose.
Simply put, people underestimated the stupidity and malice of no-information voters.

Dutchess_III's avatar

That is an interesting perspective @ragingloli. I watch a 20/20 interview with Melania, trump and his kids and they said that as the results started coming in trump got quieter and quieter, and stiller and stiller (?) until he was pretty much locked up in disbelief. Even HE knew someone out there had to be a total idiot.

flutherother's avatar

A vote is a responsibility and there is no excuse for voting a man like Trump into power.

rojo's avatar

Or was flipping votes…........... Just sayin’. There was a frantic effort to do away with any opportunity to certify or recount.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I agree. But somehow it happened.

joab's avatar

I know ahead of time if I have the money saved.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

In politics stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte

YARNLADY's avatar

People who voted for Trump were motivated by a desire to get rid of “politicians” and elect someone who would bring change to the country. They were willing to overlook his mistakes and llies as being due to inexperience.
Please remember that less than half the voters actually voted for Trump. Only 58% of voters even bothered to vote, and more than half of those people did not vote for him. This means that less than 30% of the American voters elected him.
To me, this does not reflect the will of the people.

kritiper's avatar

Nothing has changed much. Trump made it in, and just barely, because too many Clinton supporters assumed their vote wasn’t needed, so didn’t vote. Unfortunately, if it were to happen again, and with the knowledge of what their not voting did, they’d probably do it again!

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

There are several reasons, based on my limited polling.

1. Hillary Clinton represented another four years of attempting to pursue what President Obama wanted to accomplish, which was often stopped short in its tracks by the Republicans.

2. Voting for Trump was a risk. On the surface, he had a reputation for successful businesses. The voters for him banked on this, possibly at the risk that might come.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I don’t agree that we didn’t know. I assumed everybody knew. The only conversation you heard anywhere but FOX was about how unfit the man is for public office. I also assumed there would be people who agreed that he was unfit for office, but would vote for him anyway. But I never believed that there were enough people in the country that would still vote for the jackass after seeing him in action.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Maybe the republicans voters really want chaos? Maybe a start to a new country? If they knew beforehand that Trump was nuts then one can assume that they secretly are rooting for dysfunction? Do Trump supporters want a civil war or constitutional change?

kritiper's avatar

I don’t think the Republican voters want chaos. They probably figure that if anything should go wrong, “God” will fix it.

YARNLADY's avatar

I jokingly asked my husband “How could “the illuminati” allow this to happen? He said it’s all part of their plan. Now that I’ve discovered their secret, I’m probably in big trouble.

Dutchess_III's avatar

@kritiper I don’t think it was the Clinton voters…it was the Bernie supporters. When Bernie lost the nomination they just gave up. They always have believed their vote doesn’t count and I bet a thousand dollars that trump getting elected just proved it to them.

Dutchess_III's avatar

@RedDeerGuy1 I think they saw trump as one of them. Stupid, racist, myscogenic, poorly educated, but rich beyond belief so he could say whatever the hell he wanted with impunity, which mirrored what THEY wanted to say, but couldn’t. They admired him for that.

kritiper's avatar

@Dutchess_III As with Ralph Nader voters some years ago, there are those who, it would seem, would rather have the whole system fail than to elect a candidate who would get them at least SOME of what they wanted. And to those few, just making a political statement must be the most important thing of all.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I think there’s a lot to @Dutchess lll ‘s theory. Joe 6 pack isn’t interested in any educated elitist liberal intellectual. Why not give the guy who acts and talks like a mob boss a shot at running things.

Dutchess_III's avatar

AND he’s filthy rich on top of it all. Not living in a beat up, trashed trailer somewhere. There must be something special about him to have managed that.

ragingloli's avatar

“a small loan of a million dollars”, followed by scamming his way to the top.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

@Dutchess III Really? You would vote for someone rich vs. on their ethics?

Dutchess_III's avatar

I was referring to the rational of those who voted for him. I AM NOT ONE OF THEM!!

ragingloli's avatar

*rationale

Dutchess_III's avatar

oops. Thanks.

MollyMcGuire's avatar

No one in the country can claim ignorance that Hillary is an lifetime criminal yet look how many people voted for her. I will never be more embarrassed by the American electorate again…........I hope!

kritiper's avatar

@MollyMcGuire Can you prove that Hillary is a criminal? You do realize that, here in America at least, one is innocent until proven guilty…

Pinguidchance's avatar

All I know is that approximately half of the American population vote one way and the other half wonder why.

YARNLADY's avatar

@Pinguidchance That is absolutely NOT TRUE. See my answer above.

Pinguidchance's avatar

46.1% voted one way and 48.2% voted another way.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Faced with the choices we had I can’t say I had much motivation to show up at the polls, I did but wrote another candidate in. I’m sure I was not the only one who was less than enthusiastic. A good number of Trump votes were really as much “not Hillary” votes as they were votes protesting the status quo. I don’t think many people thought he would keep up his antics after the election either.

YARNLADY's avatar

@YARNLADY Yes, you are talking about the people who voted, Not the “American population”. Only 58 % of the population that is eligible to vote even bothered to do do.

kritiper's avatar

@YARNLADY A point well made!

MollyMcGuire's avatar

That is why power is so important to her and hubby….at any cost. Don’t be simple.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Unless you can prove that Hillary is a criminal, then I just call bullshit.
And rumors don’t count as “proof.”

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