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flo's avatar

What does "pro-abortion is a misleading term too" mean exactly?

Asked by flo (12305points) December 27th, 2018

The question is about the word “too” in that statement. So, how about “Yes, I agree, the term “pro-choice” is misleading, but pro abortion is misleading too”?

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KNOWITALL's avatar

Pro Abortion to me means that a person is okay with using abortion as a form of birth control, rather than a one time solution to a bad situation, which I would call Pro-Choice.

flo's avatar

@KNOWITALL But how about the word “too”?

canidmajor's avatar

It just means that in a conversation where “pro choice” is labeled misleading, “pro abortion” is also misleading.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@flo I don’t think there’s anyone who is truly Pro-Abortion, in that they relish the idea of a fetus/ child being killed. At least that’s my hope and opinion. (I’m not sure how Pro-Choice is misleading, as it’s fairly straightforward.)

flo's avatar

So, person x says “The term “pro choice” is misleading”, and
person y says “yes, the term “pro -choice” is misleading, no argument there., How about “pro-abortion”, that’s misleading too”

Dutchess_III's avatar

@flo,you said, “Pro choice is a misleading term.” I said, “Pro abortion is a misleading term, too.

@KNOWITALL Nobody uses abortion as a form of birth control @KNOWITALL! It is very expensive, insurance wouldn’t cover it, and it is almost as hard on a woman’s body as child birth. Multiple abortions would cause permanent damage.

Dutchess_III's avatar

“Pro abortion” is misleading because no one out there actively encourages women to have abortions. No one likes it. No one is going “Yippee abortions!”
Pro choice is not misleading unless you refuse to understand what it means.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Dutchess_III Okay, I really don’t want to argue about abortion again.

However, you may want to do some research on that. Alveda King, a niece of MLK, had two and statistics show that many other women have more than one.

About half of all U.S. women having an abortion have had one previously.

Just as with women having their first abortion, however, the majority of women having their second or even their third abortion were using contraceptives during the time period in which they became pregnant.
https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2007/05/repeat-abortion-repeat-unintended-pregnancy-repeated-and-misguided-government-policies

Dutchess_III's avatar

To use it as birth control implies that they take no precautions and just don’t worry about getting pregnant because they can just have an abortion. Problem solved.
But, like you said, there are any number of reasons a woman could get pregnant even when she’s taking precaution, in which case she still isn’t using it as birth control.

rojo's avatar

I think it used to indicate that there is no term that is 100% accurate when it comes to describing the emotions involved in supporting a woman’s right to control her own reproductive system. It indicates that the person who is saying Pro-Abortion is inaccurate “too” recognizes that this term is used to cast a negative light and are unwilling to accept that term to describe how they feel.

I would surmise that someone who is against abortion as an option would be more likely to use the term Pro-abortion as it has a more negative connotation than Pro-choice. Same reason they would choose to refer to themselves as Anti-abortion instead of Anti-choice.
Same goes for someone who has the opposite view, they are going to choose the more positive term for themselves and negative term for their opponents.

From a personal perspective I would say Pro-Choice is MORE accurate than Pro-Abortion. It indicates that while you may not personally choose that option you feel that people should have a choice. Pro-abortion seems to indicate feelings that everyone should have one regardless of their beliefs.

josie's avatar

Pro Abortion implies lots of things not all of which are universally accepted
1. Is a woman free to choose abortion? Most people say yes. Me too.
2. Should tax payers pay for it?
Plenty of taxpayers are not comfortable with it. That is a big question.
3. Is abortion a casual issue sort of like circumcision or rhinoplasty?
I don’t think so. I would hate to have humanity finally judged on the issue. There are things about it that make normal people wonder…

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I have never, in my life, ever heard someone say they are “pro-abortion.” Ever.

When I had one in college I paid out of pocket. I have no idea if insurance would have paid for an elective surgery like that. Somehow think not.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Also, where did this argument about tax payers paying for abortions come from? Why would the tax payers pay for it?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Dutchess_III I think some people on the Pro-Life side use it tongue in cheek, but other than that I’ve not heard it used either.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The issue becomes clear once a less controversial procedure is considered. If I choose to resist the outlawing of lemonade stands, there is no proof or even evidence that I am “pro lemonade”. Those advocating decriminalization of drug use are NOT pro addiction.

JLeslie's avatar

The tax stuff is part of the Planned Parenthood funding gripe the Republicans have been harping on. They say tax dollars are going to abortions.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

What makes them think or say that @JLeslie? Is there any proof that tax dollars are funding abortions?

stanleybmanly's avatar

They can say it because their constituents tend to believe all sorts of foolishness—like the wall that Mexico will finance if we manage to throw it up before the rapture.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

…..my head hurts.

JLeslie's avatar

@Dutchess_III It’s not about proof for them it’s about emotion and voters. They connect dots. The government gives funds to PP, and PP does a large percentage of the abortions in America. PP says the funding from the government does not go towards abortions, but the money is still helping to keep PP’s open, so I understand why they see it as they do considering they are so passionate about stopping abortion.

flo's avatar

@All,
The OP is only about the word too. If a person says the term “pro-choice” is misleading, and the response is “pro life” is misleading “too”, i.e instead of saying “pro-choice” is not misleading, there you go.
Person x “Lime is sour”
person y “Cranberries are sour too.”

KNOWITALL's avatar

@JLeslie Correct. Defunding PP is the goal, which is the workaround since its legal.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Again, there is a totally unfounded hysteria against planned parenthood. It’s a women’s health organization. That’s all.

flo's avatar

…Re. my last post, “If a person says the term “pro-choice” is misleading, and the response is “pro life” is misleading “too”, please read
“If a person says the term “pro-choice” is misleading, and the response is “pro-abortion” is misleading “too”, i.e instead of saying “pro-choice” is not misleading, there you go.”

Dutchess_III's avatar

Obviously it’s sometimes.

flo's avatar

Making noise.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Like Led Zepplin.

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