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flo's avatar

What is the take away from the following movies?

Asked by flo (13313points) December 30th, 2018

The Big Lebowski
Blazing Saddles
And what other movies go in the same box?
What do people who love and recommend those movies have in common?

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filmfann's avatar

I wouldn’t put Blazing Saddles and The Big Lebowski in the same box, though they are both enjoyable films, with western influences, and both widely quotable.
Blazing Saddles is a broad, silly comedy.
The Big Lebowski is a smart, funny turn on detective films, with discussions of philosophy, religion, and culture and counterculture.

flo's avatar

But what is the takeaway from each @filmfann?

stanleybmanly's avatar

@filmfann is right. The 2 don’t belong in the same box. The only thing common to both is that they are funny. The thing common to folks recommending them is a sense of humor.

flo's avatar

Some people find torturing animals is enjoyable. It means nothing that they find it funny.

stanleybmanly's avatar

You have the most curious (and confusing) way of putting things. If they find it funny, it certainly means something TO THEM. And to me (and probably to you) it means a great deal regarding our opinion of said torturer.

flo's avatar

@stanleybmanly

1)There can be more than one common thing about the lovers of the movies.
Q“What do street x and y have in common?” Your answer is like “they are both streets.”
Ans. “They both cross street z, they both run north South, and, it could some more things.
2) There is nothing about them finding it funny that addresses the take away from the movies.

Edited.

tinyfaery's avatar

Whatever you want it to be.

flo's avatar

I’ve edited my last post @stanleybmanly

stanleybmanly's avatar

Take away? Some laughs perhaps. @filmfann ‘s critique of Lebowski I agree with 100%. Blazing Saddles is slapstick—vaudeville on film.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Are you actually asking for some sort of enlightenment or life lesson to emerge from Blazing Saddles? Expound please on what you mean by “takeaway”. The faery says it perfectly above.

flo's avatar

@filmfann and @stanleybmanly
” funny turn on detective films, with discussions of philosophy, religion, and culture and counterculture.” So, what exactly is the movie saying just for example?
@stanleybmanly enlightenment or life lesson via comedy, is that impossible? By the way you’re contradicting yourself.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I may very well be contradicting myself, but honestly, nobody here does a better job of confusing me than you. Take a look at this paragraph. “Some people find torturing animals enjoyable. It means nothing that they find IT funny”. It took me 10 minutes to figure out that your reference to IT is not about animal torture but rather the movies from 3 posts ago.

flo's avatar

@stanleybmanly “It” applies to both. And it applies to any other adjectives like that (subjective terms). Edited.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Of course funny is subjective, but we are better than half an hour into this discussion and I am still trying to drag an understandable explanation of what you are asking from your nimble mind.

flo's avatar

@stanleybmanly On the other hand I find your brain to be great plus.

stanleybmanly's avatar

THAT too is subjective, but meaningless overall. The thing that matters is that we understand each other’s questions and answers.

rebbel's avatar

Reading this thread I feel like I’m part of “Blazing Saddles” ~

flo's avatar

@stanleybmanly Yes, and it’s annoying as heck if others understand someone’s OP or answer, but I don’t. Furthermore, I find it necessary to declare that I don’t understand it.

stanleybmanly's avatar

IT AGAIN! Stop doing that!!! What EXACTLY is the it referring to THIS time?

flo's avatar

@stanleybmanly People who enjoy those movies, are they likely to be anti or pro kneeling for the anthem during a football game? Are they pro or against pit bulls as pets? And on and on. Are they likely to be liberals or conservatives, and on and on.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I’m going to tell you something, and I’m dead serious. You ask questions that at first glance make me wish I could wrap my hands around your throat. They’re like deceptively simple looking hidden puzzles and it just pisses me off royally to stumble over them. You force the gears in my head to labor and smoke, and it horrifies me to suspect that there may be something rather profound in the way your mind performs. I REALLY want a glimpse at that, so here goes: How would one arrive at a conclusion on a movie goer’s preference for pit bulls from their reaction to Blazing Saddles?

flo's avatar

@stanleybmanly I don’t know since I haven’t seen it the movie, but you agree with @filmfann‘s description “with discussions of philosophy, religion, and culture and counterculture.” So, that would include how people think about various issues, (not exactly mentioning those exact issues but the inclination) presented in a funny way I guess, if my nimble my is not mistaken.

flutherother's avatar

I am not going to answer this question. I will sit here for a moment in silence and contemplate its mystery as if I had entered an unfamiliar church. In a moment I will get up and respectfully leave trying to make as little noise as possible.

stanleybmanly's avatar

@flo The net is a wonderful thing. It’s saved your life because, believe me, if you were standing now in front of me, I would strangle you on the spot and no jury would convict me. You have the nerve to openly admit that you’ve seen neither of the movies in question?

mazingerz88's avatar

To the OP…just add two or three more movies that you think belong in the same box and I might have some answers for you.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, the take away for Blazing Saddles was “It’s a lot funnier when you’re high!” Well, for me and my friends it was. Everything was. We spent a god part of the 70’s laughing like idiots.
There was some commentary, in the form of comedy, on racism and sexism and other plagues of our society then.

Kardamom's avatar

They’re both funny movies. Why does there need to be a profound “take away” from either movie? They are both very different movies, and I would probably not put them side by side into a single category, except for humor, any more than I would put Star Wars into the same category as Full Metal Jacket, even though there are weapons present in both movies, there is an “us against them” situation, and people get killed, in both movies, and both are good movies, but I wouldn’t lump those two movies into the same category.

I will ask you, as I have in many of your Q’s, what do you really mean? And what kind of an answer are you really looking for?

I find most of your Q’s be very confusing.

May I ask if English is your first language? I don’t mean to insult you, but I often find your questions to be written very strangely, and not within the Fluther standards of writing.

stanleybmanly's avatar

She’s just a kid. When I first came here, her questions irritated me no end. I had no idea she was 11–12 years old.

Dutchess_III's avatar

^^^^ No way!

Dutchess_III's avatar

Ok, she’s been here since 2009. If she was 12 then, then she’s 21 now.

stanleybmanly's avatar

WAY! She let it slip in one of her posts a couple of weeks ago on how she didn’t want any comments on her being just 15. I’m surprised the rest of you failed to notice. I’ve only been here 4 years (I think). @Flo. Did I get your age wrong?

Kardamom's avatar

What? Flo is only 21?

I’m still curious to know if her first language is English.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I don’t think she IS 21. Shall we start a pool? Come to think of it, I’m probably over the line. One of you should probably flag this conversation until I can at least dig up the quote.

KNOWITALL's avatar

Both movies are rather low brow comedy for the most part, nicely written, that definately appealed to partyers. My mom loves Blazing Saddles, I hated it. We all loved BigL.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Do the math. Her first post was in December of 099. If she was 12 in 2009 she’s 21 now. If a few weeks ago she said she was 15, then in 2009, when she made her first post, she was 6. Does not compute.

janbb's avatar

@flo I think we need a little background on you because you confuse all of us. Are you really that young?

stanleybmanly's avatar

OK. Looks like there are 2 flos here. There’s another with a capital F who asked a question a few weeks back about being uncertain which career path was for her. She’s 15 and frustrated with having to play a cheap violin. Any one else remember that one?

Dutchess_III's avatar

No. I don’t think so. And a search doesn’t turn her up.

janbb's avatar

I remember that. A different one time Flo.

josie's avatar

Gotta love The Dude
Gotta love Sheriff Bart

stanleybmanly's avatar

I owe everyone an apology. Flo turns out to be Fio. Thank you TW.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@Fio is the teenager.

Fio is not the OP.

janbb's avatar

Well, that was an unnecessary rabbit hole.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

But @janbb it matches ! !

janbb's avatar

You need to go with the flo you know.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I’m still in the rabbit hole crying you guys. But I don’t know if it’s because I’m laughing or crying. I think I want my mom.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I read this thread to my husband and he and I are laughing so hard we are crying. Go ahead and try. I dare you. Read it like a play to someone you love. And trust.
@Stanlybmanly…the net is a wonderful thing!

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I think In Search of the Holy Grail belongs in the box with Blazing Saddles.
Or maybe Watership Down.
I just…don’t know any more.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Punning penguins? It’s a mad mad world.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

No kidding! It’s a Wonderful Life with the likes of you all in it.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

This just leveled me… you said.

”@flo The net is a wonderful thing. It’s saved your life because, believe me, if you were standing now in front of me, I would strangle you on the spot and no jury would convict me. You have the nerve to openly admit that you’ve seen neither of the movies in question?(emphasis mine.)
I dropped my phone and couldn’t pick it back up!

Pinguidchance's avatar

I like the way Flo gets people thinking about it.

Despite it being light it’s obvious audiences can take things away from it.

It’s true that you have to be intelligent enough to know what it is that Flo is asking.

And if you don’t know what it is, it shows.

rockfan's avatar

@KNOWITALL

Completely disagree, Big Lebowski appeals to stoners, not partyers.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Guess I need to watch the Big Lebowski then!

mazingerz88's avatar

^^It’s a great film. A real trip.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

That’s just like, your opinion, man.

mazingerz88's avatar

Oh yeah? Well mark it zero. Mark it zero!

Dutchess_III's avatar

Like, man, I’ve, like, tried to watch it in the past but couldn’t get very far. For YOU GUYS I’ll try again harder. Does it help to get high?

mazingerz88's avatar

^^If it will tie the room together for you, sure.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Oh MAAAAAN.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Can’t hurt.

Dutchess_III's avatar

LOL! I would have NO idea where to get that any more. Actually, I never really. I never bought it myself. But someone with me always had some and they loved to share.

mazingerz88's avatar

There are dispensaries. : )

Dutchess_III's avatar

Not in Kansas!

mazingerz88's avatar

But…we’re not in…!

Dutchess_III's avatar

But….I….am!

janbb's avatar

Where’s @flo??

Dutchess_III's avatar

Watching Monty Python maybe? He belongs in the box.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@rockfan Did you see Across the Galaxy? Beatles? Also fun.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Yellow Submarine at the Orpheum in Wichita. And I was introduced to red beer vomit for the first time. It wasn’t me or my friends, though. We were a bit too young to be drinking. I thought it was blood.

janbb's avatar

Is this in Social or General?

Dutchess_lll's avatar

@flo always posts in General. I find it one of the greatest ironies in my life.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I can’t get into The Big Lebowski….

stanleybmanly's avatar

How much of it did you watch?

rockfan's avatar

I’ve never seen Across the Universe, I’ve heard really mixed things, so I’ve always kind of put it off watching it

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, a Chinese guy peed on his rug, and the actual Big Lebowski gave him a lecture about responsibility, and that’s about as far as I got.

janbb's avatar

^^ Not every movie is for everyone.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@rockfan 82% of RT watchers liked it (of 333k people), while admitting it was no masterpiece. A bunch of kids singing Beatles songs and somewhat acid trip graphics, wishy washy love story with weak characters…cheesy but kinda fun.

The Big Lebowski also got 82% on Rotten Tomatoes, if that shows you anything for comparison.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I also don’t have the attention span I used to have….my bad. :/

flo's avatar

@mazingerz88 I can’t add 2 or 3 movies, since I haven’t seen them. I was referring to both of them in the same sentence not because I thought they belong together but because the same people recommended the as their top few (I don’t remeber if it’s top 5 or 3 or what) movies.
@KNOWITALL Thank you that helps
@Pinguidchance Appreciate it very much.

I was asking what’s the take away from each of them, not what’s the common take away, from those 2 movies. The common thing I asked about is the people who recommend it although it could be the same thing?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@flo So stoners? People who like Beatles, hippy culture? People who like crazy cult movies like Rocky Horror?

I’m just curious what YOUR takeaway from OUR takeaway is. Fun sentence!

flo's avatar

@KNOWITALL Ok. I can’t agree or disagree since I haven’t seen them.

My take away is in my last post.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Robin Hood, Men in Tights. It’s been a long long time since I’ve seen it and I forgot it was a Mel Books flick.
Man that guy was off his rocker but I can relate! This I find funny. :D

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