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Why does the press focus on her reference to the President as a motherfucker, but not her position on Israel?

Asked by josie (30934points) January 4th, 2019

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/4/rashida-tlaib-newly-elected-democrat-endorses-anti/

Not saying she can’t have both points of view, but why is one the headline maker, and regarded as significant, and the other left in the background and regarded as no big deal?

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Darth_Algar's avatar

I’m trying to understand why I should care about either.

josie's avatar

That’s your business.
But I think one is more significant than the other.
The distraction has the word motherfucker in it.

notnotnotnot's avatar

Her position on Israel is motherfucking correct.

josie's avatar

@notnotnotnot
Lots of people would disagree with you.
Don’t you think your point would be better made if it started with “In my opinion…”?
Just sayin

notnotnotnot's avatar

@josie: “Lots of people would disagree with you.”

Including the corporate media and most politicians in both parties.

Her position is still correct. BDS is legit.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Is it really necessary to put “in my opinion” before expressing what is obviously an opinion?

Patty_Melt's avatar

Why would anybody be surprised?
Media doesn’t care about pertinent information. They care about selling airtime.
Focus on the trivial, hype it, sell the overinflated bull as life changing.
For finishing touches, sit back and laugh about the numbers arguing over something which never mattered, never will.

josie's avatar

@Darth_Algar
Maybe not.
It just makes you look a little smarter is all. In my opinion.

notnotnotnot's avatar

@josie: “It just makes you look a little smarter is all. In my opinion.”

That is an incorrect opinion.

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Darth_Algar's avatar

“It just makes you look a little smarter is all.”

For the benefit of those who can’t deduce that it’s that person’s opinion by virtue of the fact that that person stated it?

josie's avatar

Suit yourself
Josie out

JLeslie's avatar

Why are people so mean on this Q?

I wonder how she feels about the title of the article presenting her as “anti-Israel”?

Peace to me means not being anti either side.

It’s all money, meaning all selling stories.

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JLeslie's avatar

The left does love to promote hatred of Trump and tend to be more sympathetic of the Palestinians.

The right likes to show the left just hates on Trump, the right promotes their positive take in Trump, and the right fully supports Israel almost blindly.

Basically, too often, each bias shows in news articles.

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MrGrimm888's avatar

The US has a history of putting sanctions on countries that violate human rights. Israel is a huge example of violating human rights…

The issue here appears to be that it is a Muslim expressing the opinion. An opinion that has long been popular on the left. “News” is something “new.” The only thing new here, is that there is a Muslim in the US government, and the attention being drawn is meant to stir those who are anti-islam…

Brian1946's avatar

@MrGrimm888

“The US has a history of putting sanctions on countries that violate human rights.”

Did you intend to say that the US has a history of supporting countries that violate human rights?

MrGrimm888's avatar

No. Although we have a history of that too.
I see no reason to treat Israel differently than Iran, or North Korea…

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JLeslie's avatar

@MrGrimm888 So, you think if a Christian, Hindu, Jewish, or Buddhist congresswoman had said the same thing the reporter would not have bothered to report the story?

The difference in those countries you listed is they are not democracies; well, Iran has some democratic elements, but it’s also a theocracy as well. The Israelis have done some things I don’t like either, but for people to ignore what the Palestinians say and do I just don’t understand. It’s a very difficult situation. The Arabs in Israel are treated as second class citizens in some ways, but Arabs (not all Arabs) threaten Israel. They want half of Jerusalem, some don’t want to be Israeli citizens even though they could be.

They reject the country. Our minorities in the US who were treated as second class citizens (unfortunately we have that in our history and still deal with some of it today) don’t speak of ruining the country, or making their own country. The situation is different in the ME and more difficult to resolve. If the Palestinians had been happy to be Israeli, to be in a democracy, maybe everything would have been different. In the US our minorities fought for our land and way of life along side the majority. I don’t know much about Palestinian politics, but maybe they need a leader who wants democracy and who gives women equal rights. Even within the Palestinian Territory they don’t give their own people equal rights.

If the congresswoman can help bring peace that’s wonderful. Historically, Palestinian leaders seem unwilling to compromise for peace, let’s hope that can change. President Trump says he wants peace in the ME, so maybe he will have an open mind and ears to what she has to say. If a treaty happened under his watch—well, can you just imagine? Highly doubtful, but he would truly go down in history.

ragingloli's avatar

He is just a fake president, so it is fine.

MrGrimm888's avatar

@JLeslie . The Palestinians would favor a one state/democracy solution. The Israelis do not. Such a democracy would give most of the power to the Palestinians. This has long been a sticking point for a one state solution.

The US has sanctioned Russia as well.

I personally think that there will never be peace in the ME. Religion is deeply rooted there, and will prevent anything but conflict.

Regardless of how complicated things are, that shouldn’t excuse what Israel does to the Palestinians. People who are over matched and fighting for their own rights, are often called terrorists. The American people who fought in the revolutionary war were no doubt considered the same.

People who support Israel seem to want the Palestinian people to simply grab their ankles, and enjoy the rape. Otherwise, they’re terrorist. I am well aware of the complexity of the situation, and of the mutual dislike. Again, that does not validate Israel’s actions. They should be brought up on human rights violations, and war crimes. They should be treated thusly, in regards to their relationships with the international community.

The fact that the Jewish people were treated so badly throughout history, and especially in recent history, makes the Israeli people hypocrites, and is shameful and pathetic. If not for US support, they would probably be wiped out by the other idiots in the region. I use the word “idiots,” because that’s what I think of people who hate each other because of religious differences.

kritiper's avatar

Israel has been talked about so much that hardly anyone cares. But using flowing, flowering words to describe the president is a whole lot of new found fun!

filmfann's avatar

I’m trying to figure out why the press keeps saying that John Kelly called Trump an “idiot” when he actually said he’s a “fucking idiot”.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Wasn’t that Tillerson? Or did Tillerson call him a “fucking moron”?

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