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How would you list the RACES of the world?

Asked by Yellowdog (12216points) March 2nd, 2019

So there is no actual division by skin color or ethnicity. Ear lobes and blood types and DNA are better indicators.

But to classify the human race into ethnicities is more problematic than it seems at first. For instance, there are at least three Asian ethnoi (roughly Chinese, Japanese, and Indian— with Koreans similar to Chinese and Inuit, and Polynesians with characteristics of Japanese)— and even Europeans could be classified as Nordic, Baltic/Slavic, Germanic, Celtic, Alpine, Mediterranean—

There could be classified as many as four types of Native Americans, if Aluit / Inuit and South American / Mexican were among them.

But maybe I’m over thinking the categories. Maybe there are only five to seven classifications, broadly speaking. And very few ‘pure’ examples as there is much overlap and cross-pollination in every culture and in every person.

I used to think in terms of Asian, European, African, Polynesian, Native American, and Middle Eastern.

What do you consider to be the main categories?

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SQUEEKY2's avatar

You mean from like crazy to just full out nuts?

Love_my_doggie's avatar

1) Human race

That’s the end of the list.

ucme's avatar

London Marathon
Monaco GP
Tour De France

Yellowdog's avatar

I think that both Judeo-Christian believers and those who yield to science alone, would attest that we are all of one race, one blood, the lineage of Adam, or for science, descended from the same woman, Mitochondrial Eve. Yes, one race.

But I do not consider the diversity of ethnic groups to be a taboo subject, as long diverted groups often meet who have differences in familial appearance.

One race? Yes. But many ethnic groups. What are they?

Demosthenes's avatar

I just go with Mongoloid, Caucasoid, and Negroid. Makes things easier :)

Yellowdog's avatar

@ragingloli a list of extinct and some hypothetical hominid species, clearly different species does not equal races

A race in terms of ethnicity is a geographically isolated “breeding population“that shares certain characteristics in higher frequencies than other populations of that species, but has not become reproductively isolated from other populations of the same species.

It is a biological term, not a dirty word.

JLeslie's avatar

I really thought this was car races or horse races. Lol.

I wouldn’t list the races. I think it’s more and more blurred, and less and less necessary. The list is different depending on who you are talking to, so what use is it really?

A large percentage of people are a mix anyway, and we are getting more and more mixed.

I can’t tell you how many times someone tells me someone is black and I don’t see it. My husband’s family says one of my MIL’s close friends is black, and I don’t think so. I have a friend where I live who I never considered black, and I found out she identifies black. Just last embellished my husband was talking about a black actor, and I don’t perceive that actor as black.

I definitely don’t think Hispanic is a race, that’s just ridiculous to me.

I’d be just fine if we got rid of the word race altogether, but admit I do describe people as white, black, Asian, Polynesian, Mediterranean, as a general description when it’s called for.

seawulf575's avatar

Well, the Star-bellied Sneetches had bellies with stars,
And the Plain-bellied Sneetches had none upon thars.

Yellowdog's avatar

@JLeslie You can list car races and horse races too if you want. Its a free country and a social question.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

@JLeslie “Hispanic” refers to the language spoken more than any physical trait.
However, we usually equate Hispanic to Mexico. Using the three main races school of thought, the “race” would be a mix of Caucasian (Europe) and Mongoloid (Native American.)

JLeslie's avatar

@Dutchess_III I think it’s ridiculous that Hispanic and Mexican are used synonymously. It’s like saying Canadian and North American are synonymous. Actually, it would be more like saying Western European and American are the same. Or, Western European and Canadian.

Mexico is a nation, being Mexican is a nationality, like being American or Canadian. I never heard Mexican used as a catch all for all Spanish speakers living in the northeast. It wasn’t until I moved to MI, and I did not understand until years later living in NC that it was an actual thing. In MI I just thought my girlfriend who called my Ecuadorian boyfriend Mexican just wasn’t remembering where he was from. Then, when she said I could speak Spanish to the Brazilian people who visited her news station, I realized she’s pretty ignorant when it comes to Latin America. Then I moved to NC and heard someone say they needed a Mexican to do their lawn, and I started to understand that all Hispanics were called Mexicans by these people who couldn’t put Colombia, Chile, or Uruguay on a map. I wasn’t impressed. I correct people. They sound ignorant or bigoted when they call everyone south of our border Mexican.

My friends in TN once asked my husband and I if we mind the term Hispanic, and I said I say my husband is Mexican, and they looked at me surprised. To them it is a slur, and to my husband it is his country that he was born and raised in, and who he cheers for in the World Cup. It’s disgusting to me that a seemingly large part of the US has turned a country name into a derogatory word. It’s not. I refuse to let people turn the term Mexican into something bad, and Venezuelans and Chileans will think gringos ding dongs for thinking they are Mexican, or calling them Mexicans. It makes no sense.

Hispanic I think used to more technically refer to people from Spain who now are in the Americas, but yes now Hispanic is used basically for all Spanish speakers in Latin America as far as I know.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Well JLeslie, people don’t know what they don’t know. That’s all.

JLeslie's avatar

@Dutchess_III People don’t know Mexico is a country? The one that borders our own country? They don’t know Ecuador is a different country? They don’t know Mexico is not the name of the continent? We aren’t talking about knowing where Latvia or Uganda is. It’s like calling all Asian people Chinese. I’m sure some Americans do it. My MIL used to, and she gets pissed when people call all Hispanics Mexican, she’s a hypocrite, but she realized her mistake when I pointed it out.

Seriously, it’s like people calling you a Canadian. Wrong country.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

No. You are on a totally different tangent.
Some think “Hispanic” and “Mexican” mean the same thing. They don’t know that Hispanic actually refers to people who speak Spanish.
Did you know that?

JLeslie's avatar

@Dutchess_lll So, what are you saying? They call Mexicans Hispanic? They are Hispanic. They call all Hispanic people Mexican? They aren’t. It’s that simple.

I really don’t understand your point in defending calling all Spanish speaking people Mexican. I don’t call all English speaking people American. If they stopped for a moment and gave it some thought, maybe they wouldn’t do it. Or, if people start correcting them, maybe they will stop. It just sounds ignorant or bigoted depending on the intent. Not when it is a simple mistake, and then once corrected they fix it, but when they insist on calling an Argentinian Mexican, because “well you know, they are all Hispanic” or because all their neighbors say it, that’s just, I just don’t understand it.

SmartAZ's avatar

We notice that people who worry about race are aware of only two: black and white.

JLeslie's avatar

@SmartAZ Who is we? I find most people who are racist hate any group not just like their own. The white supremicists don’t like Catholics, Jews, Asians, blacks, I’m sure there is more.

Yellowdog's avatar

Agree with @JLeslie

@SmartAZ Not sure what you are referencing about people who “worry about race.” Some of us see the topic as one of the great diversity in the world.

If you are white, would you really want to visit the Serengeti if its population were mostly Russians and Slavic groups? Do you consider the people of Burma or Greenland or Korea to be just like you? If you were hired to photograph Danish children for a magazine article, would you seek out Somali Muslim children living in Denmark as an example?

indigenous cultures are part of our sense of place.

Some people want it both ways. They have to have ‘diversity’ by having quotas and token individuals, as if they consider these people something other than their own group, then slam those who truly appreciate diversity, calling them racist.

Dutchess_III's avatar

@JLeslie Please read what I wrote again.
I didn’t call all Spanish speaking people Mexican. I called all Spanish speaking people Hispanics, because that’s the definition of Hispanic. Not every Mexican is Hispanic. I’m sure there are some pockets of Native Americans who still speak some form of original Native American language, and who don’t have any European blood. They are not Hispanic because they don’t speak Spanish. They are indigenous Americans who share the genes of their original ancestors up north.

Dutchess_III's avatar

* All native Mexicans share the same genetic make up of the Native Americans up north. Most also have European genes, but there are some who don’t.

JLeslie's avatar

^^Let’s go back. You originally wrote “However, we usually equate Hispanic to Mexico.” That to me means when you think of Hispanics you usually think of Mexicans. Is that what you meant?

Dutchess_III's avatar

I, personally, do not assume that if someone is Hispanic, they are from Mexico, because I know what “Hispanic” means. However many people don’t know what Hispanic means and since they usually hear the word in reference to Mexicans they simply think “Hispanic” means “Mexican.”
That is why I said ”…people don’t know what they don’t know. That’s all.”

JLeslie's avatar

@Dutchess_III Ok, I think we should correct them so they know better.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I don’t think it really matters.

JLeslie's avatar

I think it does in today’s climate. People are accused of racism left and right whether warranted or not.

East Asians in America want to be called Asian not Oriental, it’s ok to say people of color but not colored people, Latin Americans don’t want all Latin Americans called Mexican, the more we know the better we are understood.

Dutchess_III's avatar

It totally depends on the context @JLeslie. It depends on the situation, the conversation, the people involved.
In general, I just don’t feel that it’s my job to go around correcting everybody all the time like some self righteous prig. That doesn’t mean I don’t do my fair share, but again, it depends on the context. I let a lot of things slide.

JLeslie's avatar

^^I don’t mean correct everyone every where. You have to pick and choose, like you said.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I stand corrected, LOL! . :D

SmartAZ's avatar

@JLeslie you are not talking about racism, you are talking about generalized hatred. I agree, there are lots of people who hate everybody and everything.

JLeslie's avatar

@SmartAZ I don’t think so. I’m talking about people who aren’t racist using the correct words so they represent themselves accurately. If they are racist or haters then who gives a shit if they sound like haters, it’s what they are, and I’d rather know.

My girlfriend in school was not a bigot, just surrounded by people who always used Mexican to describe everyone who was from Latin America, and for some reason she never thought it through. If she uses the correct terminology in her community she will still be understood, but if she uses Mexican for every Hispanic person she will sound like an idiot or hater to many outside of her community. That’s my point.

SmartAZ's avatar

@JLeslie You still are not talking about racism. You are using the wrong words so nobody clearly understands what you are talking about. That is the same thing you are complaining about in your girlfriend.

JLeslie's avatar

@SmartAZ I’m talking about communication skills. I really don’t understand your point. I’m not trying to talk about racism. I’m not calling anyone a racist.

Plus, did you answer my question to you? Who is we? You said we who only notice black and white. I don’t know who you are talking about.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I think by “they” he means people in general.

SmartAZ's avatar

@JLeslie Apparently neither of us understands the other’s point, so let’s just drop it.

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