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Do you think Affirmative Action will end due to Obama's nomination by the Democratic Party? Do you think it should end due to his nomination?

Asked by jca (36010points) August 28th, 2008

Do you think that a person of color (or African American, whichever term you choose) who has gotten this far in politics is proof that Affirmative Action is no longer necessary?

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JackAdams's avatar

The smart-aleck answer would be that Affirmative Action should only be half eliminated, because Barack Obama is only half black.

August 28, 2008, 10:44 PM EDT

tinyfaery's avatar

Sure. One black man does represent all black men, after all. (not)

tWrex's avatar

He’s actually only like 3% black. He’s mainly Muslim. And while I agree that JackAdams answer is the best, tinyfaery does make a point. Unfortunately, while he may not represent all black men, affirmative action is no longer necessary. It’s a policy that had it’s place – much like unions – but whose time needs to come to an end. Just my 2c.

AstroChuck's avatar

Affirmative action is no longer necessary? Are you for real? In a perfect world we wouldn’t need it. Look around and tell me how affirmative action has become unnecessary just because one partially black man may become president. The time when a black man as president is no longer the big story is when affirmative action will be obsolete.
In a lighter vain, I always find it amusing that those rich white politicians who come out against affirmative action don’t have a problem accepting a handicap on the golf course.

tWrex's avatar

LoL @AstroChuck “handicap on the golf course” That’s awesome.

tinyfaery's avatar

Since when is muslim a race? I’m fairly sure a Muslim is someone who practices the religion of Islam. I always wondered who believed that media crap.

I was at UCLA the year the UC system repealed affirmative action. The next two years I saw a diverse campus become homogenized, and a long with it, a decline in the aptitude and attitude of the students.

tWrex's avatar

@tinyfaery My apologies for mis-speaking. I meant no harm. He’s technically a true African-American since his dad was Kenyan and his mom was American.

Don’t we feel like by giving people jobs that they may or may not deserve, we’re handicapping them? The idea that someone’s skin color may have gotten them a job is kinda asinine. And the idea that without it they won’t get a fair break is kinda like saying, “Well, we still think you’re not ready for the first grade so we’re keeping you in Kindergarten”. Do we really think that if affirmative action was ended that all-of-a-sudden all blacks would be kicked out of schools, ripped from their jobs, kicked out of their homes, etc.? The idea that they can’t stand on their own merit is kinda sad.

JackAdams's avatar

You want to witness some excellent examples of “Affirmative Action?”

Watch any movie where Swedish-born actor Warner Oland portrays Chinese sleuth Charlie Chan.

Or watch Mary Martin playing the part of a boy named Peter Pan.

August 29, 2008, 1:21 AM EDT

kevbo's avatar

I would imagine the end of affirmative action in the U.S. would have more to do with the eclipsing of the “white” majority in the decades ahead, provided institutional racism is no longer a concern.

SuperMouse's avatar

No, the election of Barak Obama should not lead to the abolishment of Affirmative Action. While Obama’s even running for president is groundbreaking and says a lot for how far our nation has come since the days of slavery, the fact of the matter is, people of color face discrimination every single day. They face it when trying to get into schools, trying to get jobs, trying to find housing, even when shopping in a department store. The repeal of Affirmative Action programs would be a disservice, not only for people of color, but for our entire nation.

JackAdams's avatar

Maybe, should Obama be elected, he’ll reduce the number of public restrooms at The Pentagon.

It has twice as many as it actually needs, you know.

The reason for that, is when it was originally constructed in 1945, it had “White Only” and “Colored Only” lavatories.

August 29, 2008, 7:32 AM EDT

rawpixels's avatar

Affirmative Action may have good intentions, but the problem is, it’s an attempt to fight racism/sexism by using racism/sexism. The only thing that should be considered when making an employment choice, etc., is the qualifications/merits of a particular individual. Racism/sexism will never end entirely, because we are all humans, and humans are flawed. I believe in equality under the law, but preferential treatment based on the color of one’s skin or what lies between someone’s legs, is discriminatory itself.

JackAdams's avatar

I remember when I was a counselor/manager at an employment agency in St. Paul MN, in the early 1970s.

A black veteran came into apply for a job, and sat in front of me saying, “I don’t want any ‘Affirmative Action’ jobs, and I refuse to accept any ‘Veteran’s Preference’ jobs. I wish to be hired only because someone thinks I’m the best person for the job, and nothing else!”

I was forbidden, by him, to mention that he had spent 20 years in the USAF.

I got him a very good job, that same day, and I respected his wishes.

To this day, I doubt if anyone at his job knew that he was black.

August 29, 2008, 8:00 AM EDT

tinyfaery's avatar

@Jack You said: “To this day, I doubt if anyone at his job knew that he was black.” That’s a good thing?

JackAdams's avatar

C’mon! You know sarcasm when it’s pointed out to you, right?

August 29, 2008, 12:52 PM EDT

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