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Moderate Republicans: will you vote for Biden?

Asked by gorillapaws (25491points) April 8th, 2020

Any moderate Republicans interested in voting for Biden over Trump? Why or why not?

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KNOWITALL's avatar

No.

This article says it better than I could, and written by a millenial:

The reason many of us are so turned off by Joe Biden is that, over the course of a many-decade career in Washington, he has let us down on the key issues when it matters most. Joe Biden has shown himself to be fundamentally weak, unreliable, and dishonest. He gets taken advantage of by Republicans, and he seems more interested in making friends than advancing Democratic ideals. Biden, ultimately, is truly “just another politician”: a guy who will give you a warm smile and then sell you out behind closed doors, a person who will make terrible decisions and grubby deals and then cover them up with lies. He adopts a “middle class” image but sucks up to the rich and powerful, and has contempt for ordinary voters and their concerns. He’s a man with little integrity or moral character, whose choices in office have caused a lot of people a lot of harm.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/03/democrats-you-really-do-not-want-to-nominate-joe-biden

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Unlikely and I don’t want to vote for Trump either.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@ARE_you_kidding_me Sigh…what a choice.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

About like last time.

Caravanfan's avatar

I’ve voted both Republican and Democrat. I am philosophically an independent left-leaning libertarian. Of course I will vote for Biden, even though he wasn’t even my 5th choice.

filmfann's avatar

The truth of it is you can vote for Trump or Not Trump. Any vote not for Biden is for Trump.

gorillapaws's avatar

@filmfann That’s literally false.

janbb's avatar

Maybe we should put it this way, you can vote for Biden to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg or you can vote for Trump to?

Or – any number of capable, intelligent people that Biden might appoint versus the gang of criminals that Trump surrounds himself with.

hmmmmmm's avatar

Or we could put it this way. You can vote for the guy who voted to confirm Scalia, worked to cut contraception coverage from the ACA, supported the Hyde amendment prohibiting federal funding for abortion, and received $200k for a speech to help elect anti-choice Republican Fred Upton during the 2018 midterms to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg, or you can vote for Trump to.

But even that doesn’t cover all of your choices, so that is factually incorrect as well.

At the very least, you could….

- not vote, like nearly 50% of the population who feels unrepresented by the 2 corporate parties
– vote for a 3rd-party candidate
– vote for Joe Biden
– vote for Donald Trump

I think the question asked, however, is quite clear. If you are a moderate Republican, will you vote for Joe Biden over Trump? Bringing up supreme court sounds like a litmus test…or “purity” and a bit off-topic.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Bringing up the supreme court is pointing out one of the disastrous consequences of Republican governance, and one that lasts decades beyond administration that inflicts the damage.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

A lot of non-moderate Republians are answering !

More like conservatives.

Caravanfan's avatar

@Tropical_Willie I answered because I basically consider myself philosophically a moderate Republican (in the mold of Eisenhower, Ford, Rockefeller, Chafee, etc.).

janbb's avatar

Do you think the OP only wants “nice people” to answer?

Or – more to the point, are there any moderate Republicans left?

Jonsblond's avatar

I was looking forward to hear from moderate Republicans on this issue, that’s why I’m following.

I don’t understand why some people can’t answer the question that was asked. I also don’t understand why some people think it’s wrong to expect answers to stay on topic, especially in general. That’s the point of having a general section.

Patty_Melt's avatar

@TW, at whom are you pointing your finger?

hmmmmmm's avatar

@janbb: “are there any moderate Republicans left?”

I don’t know. I have been told that the reason the Dem party needs to be a right-wing party is to attract the mythical “moderate Republican”. They must exist, right?

gorillapaws's avatar

@janbb “Do you think the OP only wants “nice people” to answer?”

I want anyone who considers themselves to be a “moderate” Republican to answer honestly. I’m interested in hearing their perspective on Biden.

Thank you to all who have answered so far.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@Patty_Melt Are you a moderate Republican or a hard-core Trump follower ???

filmfann's avatar

@gorillapaws Explain why I am wrong.

gorillapaws's avatar

@filmfann If I vote for Trump his vote total increases by 1, if I vote for a 3rd party candidate then Trumps vote total does not increase by 1. See the difference between voting for Trump or a 3rd party? It’s very simple math.

filmfann's avatar

@gorillapaws

Source

State. Clinton. Jill. Alt
...........Loss. Stein. Clinton
.........Margin. Votes. Margin
MI…...10,704 ...18,048….-7,344
PN ...44,292 ...29,689 ...14,603
WI ...22,748 ...28,766….-6,018

As you can see, Wisconsin and Michigan would have gone for Clinton if these extra Jill Stein voters had chosen to vote for the Democratic candidate as they appear to have done in 2012. But Pennsylvania would still have gone for Trump — albeit by a substantially smaller margin (33 percent).

hmmmmmm's avatar

Math is apparently difficult for some people.

gorillapaws's avatar

@filmfann This is off topic, but you’re assuming that someone who voted for Jill Stein would vote for Clinton. Why the fuck would they do that?—these are people who went out of their way to NOT vote for either Clinton or Trump? What about all of the mythical moderate Republicans we keep hearing about? Go knock on doors! Show us how powerful the moderate centrist unity message is!

filmfann's avatar

Again, what I said was this:

The truth of it is you can vote for Trump or Not Trump. Any vote not for Biden is for Trump.

hmmmmmm's avatar

^ This is embarrassing.

gorillapaws's avatar

@filmfann “Any vote not for Biden is for Trump.”

How many votes does Trump’s total increase by if someone votes 3rd party? How many votes does Trump’s total increase by if someone votes for Trump? Do the math. (hint: It’s not the same number)

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