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What will you say to a cop who’s kneeling on your neck as you lay on the ground handcuffed?

Asked by mazingerz88 (25020points) 1 month ago from iPhone

How long do you think you’ll last with a knee pressing on your neck?

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Inspired_2write's avatar

I am going to die at your hands unless you take your knee off now.

( I wouldn’t be in that position in the first place…
an expression comes to mind…“In the wrong place at the wrong time”.)

George Floyd died knowing full well that witnesses were present that could had assisted him,he was waiting for that, and it never came until it was too late?

It wasn’t right but one cannot depend on others to step up at times.

His voice for help fell on deaf ears.

I doubt that he could speak much with his airway closing..to prevent being heard?

He died a martyr and will be revered for the rest of time.

zenvelo's avatar

“Tell my kids I loved them”. My final words.

LadyMarissa's avatar

I wouldn’t last 5 minutes that’s for sure

zenvelo's avatar

@Inspired_2write ”...witnesses were present that could had assisted him, Those witnesses are also police, and they are complicit in Floyd’s murder.

Bystanders would also have been arrested and possibly beaten pr killed for interfering with police officers.

Inspired_2write's avatar

Exactly, anyone police included could had did the right thing.
Shock, fear and panic prevent some from stepping forward but in unison they could had been successful in freeing him.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Why-WHY didn’t I stay in Canada?

Inspired_2write's avatar

@SQUEEKY2
Because like many , you bought into the American dream..Emphasis on “Dream”.( an illusion.)

ucme's avatar

“Please may I have my neck back, I was rather intending to use it”

Inspired_2write's avatar

@ucme

We are assuming that one could had enough breath to say that.
One word..HELP would had been all he could had said.
( keep in mind that report that came out the other day on the News..that his back was been held down and compressed his lungs as well..by who..?)

The other cops.

mazingerz88's avatar

Tried tightening my neck muscles imagining maybe that could withstand a knee pressing down? I don’t think so. Too heavy.

To the cop, I’d probably say…

( Can’t think of any )

ucme's avatar

I assumed nowt!
I used to practice opera in the bath & so can speak fluently whilst holding my breath…just ask my mom lol

Inspired_2write's avatar

@mazingerz88

Imagine a large man the size of that offending cop on your neck.

From the video presented on the News channels it sure looks like that cop wanted to silence not only the victim but his fellow cops?

A very bad person to have in charge of anything…bully mentality.

He was cruel and he knew it…too bad that its the norm for people living there and other places of minorities.

Its the 1960’s all over again..a pattern that keeps been repeated.

KNOWITALL's avatar

Not long, and I wouldn’t say anything more than likely but pray.
Resistance is futile, that’s why you always comply, so you don’t get hurt.
Now articles today are saying he had meth and fentanyl in his system, but I haven’t confirmed that via non-biased sites. Wonder if that may have added fuel to the fire, so to speak.

On the news they ran stats and about 44/ 200 times the knee was used, it resulted in loss of consciousness. Scary.

kritiper's avatar

“I’m sorry. It won’t happen again. I promise.”

kritiper's avatar

It’s not just the police who might be at fault. There are assholes in all walks of life, from all sides, of every color, sex, religion, and ethnic background. All roles in this could have easily been reversed.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

I was in a similar situation in a hospital. I said that I had a broken hand. They grabbed me and threw me in a locked isolation room and gave me a needle. They did so I think because I was tall.

Why? I thought that it was my right to refuse medication. I said no and the nurse pushed her alert button and 4 wards of the hospital psych nurses swarmed me, threw me in a isolation room for a 16 hours and put a needle in my behind.

Their is nothing to say at that point. They made up their minds. Would be like trying to ask for mercy from a robot.

mazingerz88's avatar

^^My feelings exactly in my post above. Nothing to say. What magic words might I say that would make that deranged cop get his knee off my neck?

cheebdragon's avatar

Probably depends on what I was doing that required police to use that amount of force.

mazingerz88's avatar

^^You were handcuffed lying on the ground. That’s all you’re doing. There were two more cops looking at their fellow officer with his knee on your neck. Any ideas of what you might say?

cheebdragon's avatar

Are you under the impression that all or most arrests happen that way? If they have to take you to the ground in order to put handcuffs on you, it’s most likely going to be because you were evading or resisting arrest. Obviously deadly force isn’t justified, but that’s not what you asked, and what I would say to the officer would very much depend on what I was being arrested for and why such a hostile arrest was required.

KNOWITALL's avatar

Has it been established he had drugs in his system, not the cause of death but perhaps amped up the situation?

mazingerz88's avatar

^^If he had drugs in his system I’m guessing his defense lawyer could use that as leverage?

@cheebdragon How about trying a fictional scenario of your own choosing why you were handcuffed and a reason of your own choosing again as to why you ended up lying on the ground. Come up with a reason that you think would give a cop cause to put his knee down on your neck. Then answer the question. Hope that’s not too hard a request.

Soubresaut's avatar

@cheebdragon, how about “I can’t breathe” for start?

cheebdragon's avatar

@mazingerz88 I answered the original question and explained my answer. No one knows what they would really say in that situation until they are in it. You don’t have to agree with my answer, no fucks given, try to move on with your life.

@Soubresaut Because that worked so well for Mr Floyd, right?

KNOWITALL's avatar

He had also been tested positive for Covid in April, so with the drugs in his system, the family’s coroner reported some hardening of the arteries around the heart contributing to a heart attack due to asphyxiation. Just read it this morning.

Soubresaut's avatar

@cheebdragon, exactly. I thought with your comments above, such as when you said, “Probably depends on what I was doing that required police to use that amount of force,” (emphasis mine), that you were implying that there was some sort of justification for what those officers did to Floyd.

@KNOWITALL—what relevance does any of that have to the officers’ conduct?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Soubresaut This is Social, it meanders and we were discussing earlier. Feel free to scroll on if you don’t care about contributing factors to his death. The cause of death hasn’t changed, but more details are coming out.

Soubresaut's avatar

@KNOWITALL—I wasn’t meaning to question why the discussion was meandering. I was wondering why meander there, specifically—what relevance does that information have?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Soubresaut To me, perhaps all his other issues (Covid, drugs) combined made him more susceptible to the pressure on that area.
If a normal person takes 4.4psi of pressure to asphyxiate and he only needed 2psi due to underlying illness, I could see all of that combining to a jury for a lesser sentence for the cop.

mazingerz88's avatar

@cheebdragon Probably depends on what you did that would require the cop to put a knee on your neck yet you can’t think of anything that you might have done in theory to justify it. Weird. Why is that?

Soubresaut's avatar

@KNOWITALL—I really hope those things aren’t factored in. Nothing excuses that kind of behavior from the cops, especially not “Well, most people would have survived the mistreatment.” And if a citizen in handcuffs saying “I can’t breathe” isn’t enough of an indication to suggest that they’re being suffocated, I don’t know what is.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Soubresaut Yes but its notoriously difficult to convict cops. Just thinking about the angles the autopsy results could open.

Soubresaut's avatar

@KNOWITALL—I’m thankful you seem to be saying you worry only that it will happen that way, not that you think it should happen that way. When it’s just information like that without context, I find I can’t help but wonder what the purpose of it is. Thanks for clarifying for me.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Soubresaut Thanks for allowing me to explain rather than assuming.
I’m mentally prosecuting him (cop) already…haha!

cheebdragon's avatar

@mazingerz88 Seriously, why are you so hung up on my answer? Does my opinion mean the world to you? No? Cool. Build a fucking bridge already.

mazingerz88's avatar

^^Not sure you answered the original question which you claim you had. Just clarifying. If you just said you wouldn’t know what to say, that would be an answer.

After all, a knee pressing down on your neck while you’re in handcuffs and on the ground…all that must be excruciatingly bewildering and confusing that you could be at a total loss for words.

But you said it probably depends on what you were doing that would require a cop to put his knee down on your neck. I paraphrased but isn’t that what you said in effect?

In theory what could that act be? Just curious since you indicated that such act would determine what you might end up saying to the cop about his knee pressing down on your neck.

cheebdragon's avatar

@mazingerz88 Do you need pictures or diagrams perhaps, to help you grasp the concept that a person who is being forcefully arrested for something as insignificant as loitering, might have a very different verbal response than someone being held down because they were trying to fucking murder someone? I don’t believe anyone knows what their exact response would be in that situation until it happens, but their level of innocence and amount of anger would probably influence their last words. If you have an issue with my answer, please speak to a therapist.

mazingerz88's avatar

^^Still haven’t answered my question though. It’s ok you don’t have to. I’m done. Don’t sweat it.

cheebdragon's avatar

@mazingerz88 I did answer it, 6x to be exact, just not the way you wanted me to answer.

mazingerz88's avatar

^^You refused to cite a theoretical act you said would probably determine your response to the cop’s justified act of pushing his knee on your neck.

Why is that so hard? It’s just in theory anyway. Should I provide a theoretical scenario for you?

Or are you indicating now that there is nothing you could have done that would justify getting the cop’s knee on your neck? Thus answering my question isn’t possible.

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