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Anyone else favor abolishing Daylight Saving Time?

Asked by Nomore_lockout (3164points) 1 month ago

Again tonight with the fall back spring forward hokum. I think it’s a nuisance and a relic of a bygone time.

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RedDeerGuy1's avatar

I am in favor for removal of the clock adjustments twice a year.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Me too,me too, I think it’s long overdue to be gotten rid of.

Nomore_lockout's avatar

Yes indeed fellas. I just feel like it’s outlived it’s usefulness. Back when most areas of North America were rural farm and ranch areas with crops to be harvested and cattle to be taken care of, I guess the extra daylight time was useful. But in our modern urban and high tech culture, it’s nothing but a quaint nuisance.

SEKA's avatar

Funny tidbit is that it wasn’t set up for the farmers as it was sold to the public. It was set up so corporate executives would have time to go play golf after work every day during nice weather

Nomore_lockout's avatar

@SEKA All the more reason to abolish it then : )

doyendroll's avatar

@Nomore_lockout
“Back when most areas of North America were rural farm and ranch areas with crops to be harvested and cattle to be taken care of, I guess the extra daylight time was useful.”

You forgot to mention the “extra daylight time” additional fading of the curtains and UV radiation.

Nomore_lockout's avatar

@doyendroll And yet one more reason, the list grows.

Demosthenes's avatar

I think it’s remarkable that seemingly no one likes it and yet we’ve still done nothing to get rid of it.

Nomore_lockout's avatar

@Demosthenes I read somewhere that a New York State legislator had introduced a bill to abolish it but it got lost in all the Covid hooplah.

Nomore_lockout's avatar

As well I believe Arizona and Indiana have done away with it too.

jca2's avatar

I thought it was supposed to end.

Yellowdog's avatar

Students, schoolchildren and working people are put in danger by the Spring time change, to Daylight ‘savings’ time— as the mornings are dark and many people aren’t fully awake. We often hear about children being struck by cars then. One death is too many, and I don’t like having to work in the dark.

Its always better to have an extra hour to get things done, and you always have that with regular, non-daylight time,

canidmajor's avatar

I’m in favor of sticking with Daylight Time. More accidents occur in the afternoon when people are tired and distracted after work when it’s dark, than in the morning.

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-are-5-ways-life-would-be-better-if-we-made-daylight-saving-time-permanent

JLeslie's avatar

Most people are in favor across the country I think.

I want the daylight savings schedule not standard time. Standard time is the winter month time, what we just changed to this morning.

No matter what, we should think about western sun (sundown) rush hour. My husband and I wound up driving last night when the western sun was low in the sky and we were basically blinded. If someone had ran out in front of us we easily could have missed them. Dusk driving is very unsafe, not only because of the low sun, but also because our eyes are constantly adjusting to the changing amount of light. Sunrise rush hour has similar problems, but the western sun can be especially brutal.

gondwanalon's avatar

Nothing says winter more than it being dark at 4 pm.
Nothing says spring more than being light at 10 pm.

Love_my_doggie's avatar

No. During summertime, I have no need for an hour of sunlight at 4:00 a.m., but an extra hour until sunset is pleasant, practical, and convenient.

ragingloli's avatar

I absolutely am in favour of abolishing daylight.

JLeslie's avatar

@gondwanalon You must live very north and near the western edge of your time zone. Lol. I remember those sunrise and sunsets in Michigan. Thankfully, here in Florida it is not so severe.

kritiper's avatar

Not I. If anything was done along that line, I would opt to keep Daylight Saving all year long.

SEKA's avatar

@doyendroll My grandpa was a farmer and he never worried about a clock. He got out of bed about 4 am and grandma cooked him a huge breakfast. After eating, he got dressed to wait for the earliest light of the day. He was already out doing his chores when the light of day grew bright. He worked until lunch when e came in to eat. Just as soon as he finished eating, he was back out doing his chores until it finally grew so dark that he couldn’t see what he was doing. That was in when he came in to eat his dinner and go to bed not long after to repeat the process at 4am the next morning. He always laughed about DST because he said that it didn’t give him any extra hours in his day because he had always worked from sunrise to sunset and changing the clock didn’t change the sun. So I agree with you @Nomore_lockout. I like the sun coming up late & going down late so that’s where I wish they’d cut it off. Other than that, it serves no purpose

filmfann's avatar

Do you want kids walking to school in the dark?
As someone who worked on the street, I will tell you it is much safer to continue the time changes.

ragingloli's avatar

I loved walking to school in the dark. Not sure what planet you are living on.

JLeslie's avatar

Why does school start at o’dark hundred to begin with? Kids are tortured by the early hours. Young children who walk to school usually live close by the school, so if we want them to walk in the light it only needs to be light 20 minutes before school start. Parents can drive the children when it is very dark part of the year. It is the part when it is cold out anyway. Older kids should be starting school later, and I know some school systems still stick with older kids going very early, but that is a mistake. The older kids get themselves to school either by walking bus, or driving.

jca2's avatar

I drive my daughter to school now (on days she is in school) and the sun was just coming up, but now it should be up totally when we leave. That will change by December 21, of course. My daughter’s school starts at 7:28 in the morning. When I was in school, it started at 8:30 which was early enough.

canidmajor's avatar

At the risk of repeating myself (so I’ll repeat myself) @filmfann, please read the link I posted. It addresses that, and points out that afternoon early dark statistically increases the danger to children.

jca2's avatar

Forgot to add that in rural areas, there are not always sidewalks, so kids walking in the dark any time, morning or evening, there’s a big risk of getting hit by a car. Where I live, rural, horse farms, lakes, and with the Waze Effect, the lovely roads are now a thoroughfare during rush hours, I wouldn’t walk here and would not expect any kids to, either.

JLeslie's avatar

Good point about rural areas and cars in the dark hours, I wasn’t thinking about that.

Caravanfan's avatar

Daylight Savings Time is a blight upon humanity and I hate it with the energy of the nuclear cores of a thousand suns.

zenvelo's avatar

California voted to stop chasing the clocks two years ago, but it has to conform to Federal coordination. If we could get Oregon and Washington to agree, Pacific Time would be one tie all year round.

But people like the light in the morning in the Winter when on Standard time. And they like it being light later in the evening during the summer.

I think we should set the clocks a half hour ahead of Standard time and be done with it.

ragingloli's avatar

Time Zones should be completely abolished. Everyone should use GMT.
Who cares if it is broad daylight at 00:00 somewhere on the planet?

si3tech's avatar

I’d go for it!

Nomore_lockout's avatar

@Caravanfan LOL agree 100 per cent

Dutchess_III's avatar

Hell yes. Why do we even have it at all?

Dutchess_III's avatar

Dayum @Caravanfan! That’s a LOT of hate!

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Can I ask in this day and age why do we still have it at all??

Nomore_lockout's avatar

@Dutchess_III and @SQUEEKY2 My sentiments exactly Ladies and Gentlemen. Or to put it crudely, WTF is the point?

Dutchess_III's avatar

Here..
The Really Stupid History of DST.

Dutchess_III's avatar

of course I wouldn’t care if my kids walked to school in “the dark” @filmfann. Why would I care?

kritiper's avatar

If anyone want to get mad at somebody, get mad at the railroads. They set up the time zones. Up until then, every town set their clocks at noon when the sun was directly overhead.

YARNLADY's avatar

California had the question on the ballot and it PASSED but nothing happened because the people who were supposed to take care of the legal paperwork DIDN’T.

zenvelo's avatar

@YARNLADY Prop 3 stated that California would follow federal rules to change, which requires other states to also stop changing clocks.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, @kritiper, the sun is over head at different times in different areas so there was a de facto time zone in effect even before the railroad made it official.

filmfann's avatar

@Dutchess_III
Easier child abduction in the dark.
More difficulty for drivers to see children.
If you love your kids, you would support these time changes.

Dutchess_III's avatar

^^^ Bullshit.

JLeslie's avatar

What about northern cities around the world that only get 6–8 hours of sunlight during the winter? I think their kids must be commuting to school in the dark hours. Where are our Alaskan, Danish, and Dutch Jellies? Are they on the Q?

canidmajor's avatar

Really, @filmfann, I exhort you once again to read what I linked.

kritiper's avatar

@Dutchess_III Be that as it may, the railroads standardized time zones and times on the 18th of November, 1883.

“In the latitude of Chicago, it was known, the passage of the sun across the meridian varied one minute for every thirteen miles, or one second for every 1,140 feet of longitude.” -from The Story of American Railroads by Stewart H. Holbrook, chapter XXXI “Time and the Railroads.”

Time and time zones had to be standardized because the railroads were experiencing too many crashes due to the differences in the times of every little town along the track, especially since they were trying to fully utilize their track systems by operating trains in different directions on a single set of rails. If a train left Chicago at noon Chicago time and a train left New York at noon New York time, there was sure to be issues when the trains met at the different times.

JLeslie's avatar

At this point I think fall back it is just another torturous idea of the people who insist early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise, and view people who hate to wake up and work early as lazy. This is a prevailing thought in America. Now, with more online work and more international work it is finally shifting, but many children are still on the system and so in turn so are their parents.

There does need to be some standards in parts of society for working hours, but some of the rigidness from yesteryear is finally lightening up. We are no longer an agricultural society like before. Electricity is abundant in availability (except in rare instances). We are not controlled by the sun.

People look forward to coming home from work. Coming home from work and it is already dark makes the day feel like the entire day was work. It’s depressing. When I come home from work and have two more hours of daylight I feel like I did more than just wake up, go to work, come home, and go to sleep.

Yellowdog's avatar

Actually, we get up earlier with Daylight Savings Time, where, seven (Standard Time) becomes six.

Daylight Savings Time makes mornings dark and evenings sun-shiny. Children may have to go to bed when the sun is still shining and birds are still hopping. but have to rise by candle light.

I’d rather have the sun at 5:—A.M. and sleep in—than have the sun set around eight something in the evening.

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