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basstrom188's avatar

Why do people who can barely make ends meet support Donald Trump?

Asked by basstrom188 (3985points) December 29th, 2020

I am baffled why so many people so far removed from this megalomaniac billionaire support him

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kritiper's avatar

They are, in effect, stupid geese. They watch sports, not news. They never pick up a newspaper. They believe whatever they are told, like my neighbor who listens to the guy who owns a gun shop.

JLeslie's avatar

They don’t relate their poverty to Trump. Some of them are very religious and their religious leaders promote the Republican Party. Some believe the Republicans will get them out of poverty. Some don’t see any other way of life and they don’t think of their financial situation like you do.

Irukandji's avatar

“America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves. To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, ‘It ain’t no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.’ It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor. Every other nation has folk traditions of men who were poor but extremely wise and virtuous, and therefore more estimable than anyone with power and gold. No such tales are told by the American poor. They mock themselves and glorify their betters. The meanest eating or drinking establishment, owned by a man who is himself poor, is very likely to have a sign on its wall asking this cruel question: ‘if you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?’ There will also be an American flag no larger than a child’s hand—glued to a lollipop stick and flying from the cash register.

Americans, like human beings everywhere, believe many things that are obviously untrue. Their most destructive untruth is that it is very easy for any American to make money. They will not acknowledge how in fact hard money is to come by, and, therefore, those who have no money blame and blame and blame themselves. This inward blame has been a treasure for the rich and powerful, who have had to do less for their poor, publicly and privately, than any other ruling class since, say Napoleonic times. Many novelties have come from America. The most startling of these, a thing without precedent, is a mass of undignified poor. They do not love one another because they do not love themselves.”

(Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five)

_____'s avatar

Their poverty is not due to Trump. It’s due to the economic system and the Republicans and Democrats’ actions – especially over the past 40 years. If they feel abandoned (they are), at least they can have a) their whiteness, b) their nationalism, and c) their correct religion/god.

It’s not irrational for them to support Trump vs Biden (or Clinton). It really isn’t.

janbb's avatar

I think fear in many people is expressed in anger. “They cling to their guns and religion” and think a strongman and a bully will make things better somehow. Still, it’s baffling to me.

JLeslie's avatar

If they have been poor for their entire life and generations back, why would they attribute it to which president is in office? Except to say they might believe that if some candidate said the right thing they might believe another (new) president might make their life better. That’s probably partly how Trump won.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Because many of them are stupid.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

My guess is that they want the government to get out of the way. So that the bureaucracy and red tape out of the way so they can start their own business and lower overall taxes.

They consider the government to be the problem and not the solution.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Because they don’t have the ability to ” think critically ” !

Also they put their belt on their pants around their “waste” and hope the GOP will help them “by” a new car someday. But can show you their high school diploma.

Dutchess_III's avatar

They’re the folks having garage sells. And they’ll part their car out to you or sale it hole.

ragingloli's avatar

Well, there is significant overlap between drumpf supporters, and people who donate their last pair knickers to televangelists. I assume that the same psychology underlies both.

ragingloli's avatar

They are cultists.

_____'s avatar

conservatives: “Liberals are overeducated elitists.”

liberals: “No we’re not, you uneducated, illiterate, classless cultists. Also, vote with us!”

seawulf575's avatar

Hhmmm…maybe because he did more for the lower class than any president in the past 50 years? Because he set things in place for people to succeed instead of always needing a handout? Because they, despite the view of many jellies on this site, actually see that the career politicians don’t care one whit for them and they are willing to take a chance on the guy that actually does seem to care?

Dutchess_III's avatar

He did not @seawulf575. He didn’t do shit for anyone except his rich friends. His legacy was to undo all the EPA protections in place to help save the earth.

seawulf575's avatar

@Dutchess_III Thank you for confirming my statement about some of the jellies on this site. There are many things that President Trump did that were very good for this country and for the poor in it. It is a sad statement that some people, such as yourself, cannot actually release your hatred enough to see it.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The only good thing Trump did for this country is show all of us just how prevalent the wave of stupidity sweeping the country actually is.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Again with the hatred shit @seawulf575 getting very old .
I see thousands of lies from this orange god, deregulating a ton of pollution laws, even industry said some of these should have stayed but oh no do away, pollute to your heart content now.
In 2016 Trump said on the campaign trail he said the wealthy do not pay their share of taxes, then turned and gave them a 1.25 trillion dollar tax break.
Down played the pandemic which resulted in the states having the most deaths world wide.
I know he put the travel ban on from china look how well that worked.
Yeah the guy is just the best.
Spewed hate filled rhetoric with ever speech.
Now wants to overturn democracy just because he didn’t win the election.

stanleybmanly's avatar

How is it that poor people overwhelmingly prefer the party visibly distinguished for pandering to the rich? That’s simple. Point the finger at those even worse off—the usual suspects—blacks, immigrants, unions, others who WORK for a living. All of those, who 20–30 years ago, asked themselves “what are all these black folks whining about?” have bought into a narrative designed to guarantee they that they fight other struggling people for scraps, while the leeches at the top drain the blood from all combatants.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Good for you Squeek. I too resent so lazy and stupid a dismissal of any critique of Trump as “hatred”. It is an open admission of “I would rather not address the issue.” It’s stupid and dishonest weasleling and the wulf knows it.

Patty_Melt's avatar

I will answer this, but only for the benefit of anyone who honestly wants to know, not those who just want any excuse to argue.
These links are from various sources, various walks of life, various past loyalties. Some are funny, some are angry.
If you click on them, watch all the way to the end. Do not hmph angrily and exit.

I have a long list here, but it is incomplete. I could provide tons more.
I didn’t post them to argue over. I didn’t post them as portrayals of my own opinions. I posted these to give insight to why people support Trump.

One thing for sure, Trump haters can’t answer this question, because they don’t know what drives, motivates, inspires Trump supporters. Only Trump supporters can accurately answer this question. So, this is a long list of trump supporters, some who don’t even realize they are. There are many facets, so no one link fully answers. In fact, view the entire list, and there is still a great deal left unsaid. I didn’t even touch on Amish, who never voice political views, but who showed staunch support for Trump.
So, these clips are not intended to be fodder for a fight, but information useful only to inform someone who genuinely wants to understand.
I put substantial time and attention into this. Don’t disrespect me by turning my attempt into an argument stance.

https://youtu.be/nUYKIOudWDY

https://youtu.be/3RV57sFsojA

https://youtu.be/Hywtv0jNM9k

https://youtu.be/8i2zVEiD4Wk

https://youtu.be/vWXSogJEn7s

https://youtu.be/t_95Bb55Jnc

https://youtu.be/qYBRw-jTDpY

https://youtu.be/iiEFDLp9lJ4

https://youtu.be/1msGsMfjhlM

https://youtu.be/t-46449b-ok

https://youtu.be/1-dvWr7ObDM

https://youtu.be/2NPPE6a7mSI

Not exactly a pro Trump clip, but a good example of how people not only have varied opinions in seeing someone, but also how they view themselves being an issue which affects how they view others.

Oops

https://youtu.be/IzC-l7tovFk

https://youtu.be/Ljij9_JnApw

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Your point @Patty_Melt is what ?

Q is – - Why do people who can barely make ends meet support Donald Trump?

Oh you’re die heart Trumpster !

Yellowdog's avatar

The poor, the working class, and the middle class need a healthy economy more than anyone. The working poor did much better under Trump than any other president in decades. Most could not live on the pitiness of socialism or government support, and need avenues to make their own money and not as dependents.

“The triumph of supply-side economics”

“Trump’s booming economy can’t be denied, and his daughter Ivanka can take some credit
The results are now in: A huge jump in the GNP, booming job growth, the lowest unemployment rate in decades (especially among blacks and Hispanics), a surge in business investment, jobs and the labor participation rate, rising wages, explosive growth in wealth for millions of American workers and retirees with 401k savings plans, etc.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/may/7/the-triumph-of-supply-side-economics/?

https://iea.org.uk/blog/the-tragic-failure-of-keynesian-economics
“Another example of the failure of Keynesian economics”
“Simply stated, you don’t get more growth by expanding the size and scope of government. When will that finally sink in?”
http://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/making-sense-of-keynesian-laced-gdp-reports/
“Nope, Paul Krugman’s Still Wrong About Supply Side Economics”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/07/31/nope-paul-krugmans-still-wrong-about-supply-side-economics/#6d44167a6348
“Sorry, Obama Fans: Reagan Did Better on Jobs and Growth”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kylesmith/2014/09/11/sorry-obama-fans-reagan-did-better-on-jobs-and-growth/#94729fe3c925

It might be useful to note, and study, why the mega-rich in the Silicon Valley, Hollywood, New England, etc. the mega wealthy who control our country and its communications and commerce, are so anti-Trump and pro-Democrat and even pro-socialist—and why so many of the regular folks are Trump supporters.

Patty_Melt's avatar

@Willie I stated my point. I answered the question, and included the opinions of various other Trump supporters.

And you fucked a cliche phrase.
It is, “die hard” see batteries, or John McClane not die heart. And, yes, I am.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

You stated your point @Patty_Melt and what you posted proved Nada !

Patty_Melt's avatar

The question is about opinion. The links convey the opinions of several Trump supporters. There is nothing to fact check, or prove. Opinions are an individual thing. That is why I posted so many links, to involve the opinion of Trump supporters from many different types of people.
It proves what the question seeks; “Why?”

Stache's avatar

Yippie-Ki-Yay MotherFucker

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@Patty_Melt are you going to move to North Korea or Russia with TRUMP ? ?

Patty_Melt's avatar

Are you really such a nut job as to believe such wacko ideas, or are you just looking for a way to be an irritant?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Patty_Melt @Seawulf Gluttons for punishment?

I started to post a lengthy, factual answer and remembered what site I was on.

If th

jca2's avatar

Why? Cause this is ‘murica!

seawulf575's avatar

I find it very telling that the question is about Trump supporters and how they think. Many Trump haters have tried answering this question. And many of these answers are nothing but gross generalities that are thinly disguised insults of a whole swath of people. Meanwhile, actual people that are viewed as Trump supporters have answered. Those answers are met with personal attacks by the Trump-haters.
The way this question was answered by each and every Jelly tells a huge story about the personalities of those jellies.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Of course it is about Trump supporters. Just as virtually every critical issue in this country boils down to a stark right out in the open battle between blatant stupidity and common sense. And I don’t care what sort of excuse one cares to manufacture regarding Trump, anyone confronting the VISIBLE and UNDISPUTED reality of Trump without concluding him an incompetent and horribly twisted degenerate sociopath is either stupid or deranged. There is no polite dismissing the visible and OBVIOUS truth, and to insist at this late date after a boisterous and loud 4 year DAILY exhibition of this man’s blatantly rampant disorders, i’m here to tell you POINT BLANK that YOU ARE WORSE THAN STUPID to defend as clear cut an example of cognitively challenged and morally bankrupt a human being to roam free outside an asylum.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@stanleybmanly Careful there, hoss. Your team’s poor choices lead to Trumps win, and this vote being so close.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I don’t dispute your assertion, but it’s the classical and very flawed defense. My gripe isn’t over which “team” can field the lesser idiot, and you can rely on me finding PLENTY to complain about under the upcoming Biden administration. It is rather the idea that ANYONE worthy of respect can look unobstructed at what is in front of us both and dismiss my assessment with “he’s no worse than the rest of em”.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@stanleybmanly I’m just surprised at your lack of filter and use of name-calling as a tactic. Rather reminiscent of Trump tactics, frankly.

Dutchess_III's avatar

My insults have been “Thinly veiled”? I’ll have to work on that. I don’t want anyone to have anybdoubts about howvI feel about the man and anyone who supports him.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I agree with you that people of differing opinions are worthy of respect. They are however not entitled to their own interpretation of reality when it directly challenges every definition of “real” on which we have ALL been schooled since birth. A turd is NOT applesauce regardless of the eloquence of any argument to the contrary. What is a reasonable man to conclude regarding those claiming that it is?

seawulf575's avatar

“I agree with you that people of differing opinions are worthy of respect. They are however not entitled to their own interpretation of reality when it directly challenges every definition of “real” on which we have ALL been schooled since birth. A turd is NOT applesauce regardless of the eloquence of any argument to the contrary. What is a reasonable man to conclude regarding those claiming that it is? ” Pretty much how we on the right view the opinions of folks such as yourself. Especially when you avoid actually addressing reality.

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