Do you suppose it might now occur to disgraced Republicans that they and their country would be better off had they the courage to face up to the truth and ratify the slimeball’s impeachment?

Just hours after the mob stormed their place of work, you still had 6 to 7 senators, and about two thirds of house republicans still objecting to swing state electors.
Only a handful of them had an “epiphany”.
One of them, Gaetz, even had the nerve to blame “ANTIFA” for the mob.
So the answer is no.

A lightning fast impeachment for Trump would take far longer than he will be in office.

Who says they are ‘disgraced’ at all? Perhaps a few, but many are still firmly convinced the blame falls on the Democrats obstructionism and constant outrage for his entire term.

So my answer is no, I don’t think many are having second thoughts about whether Trump’s impeachment should have been ratified. If anything, there is almost a ‘hatred’ for the other party I’m seeing on both sides.

Blame the Democrats? Hahahaha! Ridiculous!

^^It’s “haters gonna hate yah know.” Deflection. Sad. “You hate our sweet orange doofus not fair!”

@chyna Yes. Democrats chose to put Trump up as a martyr in pre-election debates, then ran him against the hated Hillary, terrible move. Biden as nominee cut it pretty close, too.
You know with a few calculated moves Biden could have won by a landslide. But bashing Trump was chosen as a tactic over positive common-ground tactics (a la Obama.)
That’s just my opinion, as I love strategy.

Without an immediate removal of Trump, his responsibility for mob violence is becoming acceptable. Pence and the cabinet will be remembered for their cowardly inaction.

@Call_Me_Jay Some of the ‘mob’ are mad at Trump now, so I’m not sure he has the control you’re suggesting he has.

“The are people ready for fair, legal elections or this is what you are going to get. You are going to get more of it.”
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Even more emboldened, on Thursday morning Griffin posted a new video captioned “Cowboys for Trump war live” from Roanoke, VA where he denounces Trump for backing down from the fight and warns that the “movement” will continue “with the President or without a President.”
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But mark my word, by the end of the day we will plant our flag on the desk of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer… and Donald J. Trump if it comes down to it.”

https://abq.news/2021/01/breaking-cowboys-for-trump-leader-calls-for-new-rally-with-blood-running-from-the-building/?fbclid=IwAR1HiR7ZsBDhFW5a-sjOcw3keRSptdb0M7qzm3RuuVGDeLB81PACScvCAaY

It sucks that it’s our Constitution that has protected trump this far.

@KNOWITALL Here’s your fallacy in thinking:

Trump pulled the trigger by calling the Proud Boys and Cowboys for Trump to “come down Pennsylvania Avenue” in a tweet.

Is your thinking Trump should been crowned dictator by overturning the election, it sure sounds like Griffin is pissed because Trump didn’t become “El Jefe” forever ?

No!

I think we have to forget about impeachment and just let him play golf and ignore him and let the FBI worry about any current chatter. The media HAS TO SHOW SOME INTEGRITY TOO and not antagonize the situation.

@KNOWITALL is trying to tell you how many of the Republicans will think about it and most of you don’t want to listen. Democrats continue to make this mistake. Won’t listen.

I’m not talking about impeaching him now. Rather the fact that all of this would have been avoided had the spineless bunch stood up, faced the facts and dumped the fool the first time.

@stanleybmanly Still No. The majority of Republicans won’t see it how Democrats do.

JLeslie you don’t believe that they view the fool responsible for the destruction of their brand? Try to find an individual or even an event responsible for the obliteration of more political careers since the Civil War. The Republican carnage due to Trump is stupefying. Just try to find another individual capable of handing GEORGIA to the Democrats overnight.

@stanleybmanly We the people don’t get to pick the nominee, Stan. We got to choose between Trump and Hillary and the other parties.

It honestly flabbergasts me how you think sometimes. The ‘brand’ will go on, the issues are incredibly polarized and not likely to change under Biden. You seem to be giving Trump a little more credit here than he deserves.

Maybe Trumps legacy will be that we all learned a hard lesson and we’ll be better off for doing so.

I don’t think Republicans will care. They’ll continue to push the “stolen election/socialist pedophiles are out to get you” narrative and they will succeed because of that. The legacy of this is no election going forward is going to be trusted and there will be more violence and unrest in our politics. I see virtually nothing positive coming from any of this. The entire narrative was fueled by a belief that it was Trump vs. everyone else, and impeachment fueled that narrative, so I don’t think Republicans are going to feel as if impeachment was the right way to go. That would’ve strengthened feelings of resentment and opposition to Republican politicians who didn’t support Trump. Have you seen videos of Lindsay Graham being harassed by Trump supporters for not supporting an overturning of the election? Republicans benefit only from supporting Trump and embracing Trumpism. That’s what the people want right now. Can’t predict further ahead than that.

@stanleybmanly I think some do see Trump hurting the Republican brand, but there are still a ton of Republicans (I don’t mean politicians, I mean the citizenry at large) who still think Trump is great, and politicians mostly care about what will get them elected.

The majority of my Trump friends do not believe Trump is responsible for the bad things that happened. As far as the Capitol Building, they believe Antifa was rioting and destroying property and hurting people. I wrote on another Q a classmate of mine who is a cop in the DC area, his first reaction on facebook was “free speech!” He also posted on facebook something about now Democrats want the police. Democrats do not think about the impact of their words.

Democrats seem to think it is a crazy to believe Antifa could be taking cover in that crowd, but that is EXACTLY what we were saying about the rioters in the BLM crowds. We (and I mean me too) were saying that WS groups were using the protests to riot. I still firmly believe that. Thing is, what I also said was there were criminals in those crowds who were looting and rioting, and probably not associated with BLM, Antifa, or WS, just people taking advantage of the situation, and a lot of Democrats didn’t want to hear it. I said curfews make sense in some cities to protect the people and to help the police, most Democrats crucified me like I was against the protests. Most Democrats just wanted to stay in their position that all the rioting was Trump’s fault and anything that sounded anything close to trying to quell the protests was racist or pro Trump. Why should the average Republican be better than the average Democrat? No grey areas, just all black or white.

It seems, the mayor of DC did not put in enough patrol. She could have put in more National Guard, more police support, there was all sorts of chatter and early warnings that something crazy could happen. Why? If it looked “militarized” it would look too much like what Trump does to protect the cities? People need to be reasonable and realistic. There is a reasonable in between.

Let me be clear, I do not think Antifa was posing as QAnon or killing people in that crowd at the Capitol. Could there have been some Antifa present? Maybe, who knows. Do I hold Trump partly responsible for what happened? Yes, I do.

Do I think the Republican party will fracture apart? I doubt it. Republicans are saying Democrats will fracture apart because of the extremes in the party. I doubt that also.

You folks amaze me. See if you can think up any strategy the Democrats might concoct to cripple the Republican party and sabotage its apparatus to the extent achieved by this single individual. The carnage around the careers of stellar Republican notables now clogging the toilet is absolutely staggering. Despite the stubbornly insipid culpability of the American electorate, the debt the Democrats have to this idiot is incalculable.

@stanleybmanly I think a lot of Democrats love that idea and went as far as they could with it. They learned from Limbaugh and Fox News. Fight fire with fire. It might have helped foreign entities in the end. It has definitely hurt the morale of the country.

I think the Democrats helped get Trump elected. They thought it was a sure bet he would lose. They put information out there that they think will sour Republicans on Trump, and they are wrong most of the time.

We’ll see where it all winds up.

I think the Democrats helped get Trump elected. They thought it was a sure bet he would lose

Guilty! I was half-jokingly encouraging a couple of friends in Michigan to vote Trump in the primary. They have open primaries – you don’t have to register by party – so messing with the other party’s selection is a thing. But the vast majority of folks (including my friends) can’t vote against their hearts. They voted for the person they really wanted to win.

@Call_Me_Jay Luckily, most people vote for who they want to have win, but there are people who play that game of sabotage. I will never understand it. If my guy loses I hope the one who wins is reasonable.

Liberals in swing states tried to warn other liberals that Trump could win. They just didn’t get it. Michael Moore tried to tell the country.

Now, with the country more divided and people cutting off their friends and family from other parties, people will be even more clueless.

@stanleybmanly I will definately concur that the last four years have been hard. Perhaps the blame game should just leave with Trump.
I will respect Joe Biden’s presidency and hope for the best, just as I do with each President.

@KNOWITALL Good answer. It’s about the country and the good for the country.

I concur