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Did American Airlines do the right thing by duct taping the woman to her seat?

Asked by Dutchess_III (46812points) July 12th, 2021

American Airlines duct taped a woman to her seat after she tried to open a plane door at 20,000 feet, then bit someone when they tried to stop her.

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zenvelo's avatar

Yes. They had no other way to restrain her.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

If it was the only way to restrain her.
At 20,000 feet they are limited .

chyna's avatar

If some fuck ass was trying to kill me by opening the door on a plane, I’d do everything in my power to restrain them. Once she showed she was unstable enough to try to take a plane down, she lost all rights IMO.

Nomore_lockout's avatar

Hell yes they did the right thing. Try to kill me on a plane, I’ll hog tie you my damn self. So sue me. I just remembered why I will never fly. If I’m in my own car, the only idiot likely to kill me is myself. Hope they put her on a no fly list. And plaster he face at every airline ticket booth in North America.

longgone's avatar

This person was obviously unwell. She will have to be evaluated, but trying to exit a plane mid-flight can’t be considered sane. Maybe she was panicking, or hallucinating, or suicidal.

While it seems necessary to restrain her, I’m concerned that the airline did not, apparently, treat the situation as a medical emergency. Otherwise, why would other passengers be leaving the plane while she is still taped to her seat?

That’s concerning to me. In addition, I’m shocked that her mouth was taped shut. That must have been extremely traumatic, and I see no logical reason for it.

Dutchess_III's avatar

snicker! Chyna said “fuck ass!”

Nomore_lockout's avatar

Chyna was spot on. I could think of a whole lot worse to call that moron. Wanna kill yourself Sparky? Go out in a pasture and put a gun to your head. But don’t take me and 300 other innocent peeps with you. What is this world coming to?

Dutchess_III's avatar

She obviously had some mental issues. She suddenly panicked and just had to get off that plane. I don’t think her intention was to kill others, but she was out of her mind.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Yes. That is also standard in case an astronaut going nuts. Can someone please find a link for us, for duct taping astronauts?

Nomore_lockout's avatar

I don’t believe that is an issue with astronauts. They go through a lot of training and testing to get that position. Many of them are retired military people, engineers, or folks who have worked in the aero space industry. They are well aware of the risks they are taking. I just cant envision an astronaut opening a hatch on a capsule or shuttle and sucking everyone out into space, because of a panic attack.

kritiper's avatar

A most appropriate solution to a problem.

JLoon's avatar

Yes. Obviously.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The solution arrived at was preferable to either crippling her for life or perhaps killing her.

ragingloli's avatar

Yes.
Personally, I would have liked it if they had thrown her out of the plane, unfortunately the reason that was not feasible is the same reason her attempt at opening the door would have met with failure:
The pressure differential between the inside and outside of the plane at altitude is too high, making it next to impossible to open the door.

Nomore_lockout's avatar

Only James Bond does stuff like that : ) I mean, J.D. Cooper did that, but at a much lower altitude, and he had a chute. And he never attempted to kill anybody on the plane. Even the bomb was a toy.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I wondered about that too @ragingloli. And don’t they have some sort of locking mechanism to prevent just that?

@longgone….I think she was screaming and spitting and trying to bite people.
WHO put her on that plane???

Nomore_lockout's avatar

I see a new conspiracy theory birthing. “Who put the bop in the boppty boppty bop bop, who put the shang in the shanga langa lang lang?”

elbanditoroso's avatar

I didn’t realize that duct tape was standard equipment on planes.

Nomore_lockout's avatar

Good thing it is. Never know when you might get a passenger with rabies.

jca2's avatar

Sounds to me like they did the right thing. All of the passengers would have perished if they let that lunatic have her way.

gorillapaws's avatar

Yes, but I agree with @longgone’s concerns. She should have been deplaned first and met with the police as well as EMS. I also agree there is no reason to duct tape her mouth once she was restrained and no longer a threat.

chyna's avatar

She was spitting and biting and screaming. I see the reason for the duct tape on her mouth. But I do feel bad for her as she was obviously in some sort of distress.

jca2's avatar

Maybe they should have hoods like they have for people in jail, that prevent them from spitting.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Was it Gorilla Duct tape??

dabbler's avatar

Clearly the crew needed to restrain this passenger. Duct tape is on board and will work.
As restraints go, duct tape is not the worst thing that can happen.

kritiper's avatar

Whoever came up with the idea to have duct tape on a plane deserves a medal. That person had to be an American because we Americans are just so darn ingenious.

Dutchess_III's avatar

They use duct tape to put the wings back on when they fall.off.

ragingloli's avatar

They have the duct tape in case they have to fix the steel beams in case they fly into a skyscraper.

Forever_Free's avatar

There is no other answer besides INDUBITABLY YES!!!

Did we forget 9/11??
I don’t understand why people are openly wondering if AA handled this the right way.

If she was actually having a breakdown of some sort… some have questioned if restraining her in that manner might actually do more harm than good. Of course, others have pointed out that, in a scenario like that, the crew has to do what they must to keep people safe.
As for American, a rep for the company tells us this… “While in flight from Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) to Charlotte (CLT) on July 6, the crew on board American Airlines flight 1774 reported a potential security concern after a customer attempted to open the forward boarding door and physically assaulted, bit and caused injury to a flight attendant.” They add, “For the safety and security of other customers and our crew, the individual was restrained until the flight landed at CLT and could be met by law enforcement and emergency personnel.”

The woman was taken to a hospital for an evaluation, and that she’s on AA’s no-fly list until further notice.

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