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Are you under the impression that regarding covid more under age 65 are dying than over age 65 in the last few months?

Asked by JLeslie (65408points) August 25th, 2021 from iPhone

It’s August 25, 2021. It’s being reported a lot of younger people are getting hospitalized and dying now.

I had this conversation with someone earlier today. His impression was more younger people are dying than older people now. He said because older people are vaccinated.

I was just wondering what your impression is from whatever news reading or watching you do without doing any research.

I looked up Florida when I was chatting with this guy, but I don’t know any data beyond that.

To be clear this Q is more about how you interpret what’s being said in media (all types) rather than actual facts, but feel free to link any data if you choose to research it.

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elbanditoroso's avatar

Yes, that’s likely true. Most older people (much higher percentage than people under 60) are vaccinated, and there aren’t that many new older people to infect. And the weaker ones died last year.

The younger (20–60) cohort has a much lower percentage rate of vaccinations, so they get it more and die more.

And kids aren’t getting vaccinated because of their parents.

So I agree with the numbers that this person referenced.

JeSuisRickSpringfield's avatar

My impression is that the number of younger people dying from COVID and the Delta variant has increased but is still well below the number of older people dying from them.

Blackwater_Park's avatar

More and more fully vaccinated people at work and in nearby schools are getting very sick. Most don’t end up in the hospital but it’s starting to show that even if you’re vaccinated you still need to take precautions. I think older people are more afraid, have more pre-existing conditions and are more likely to take the jab.

JLeslie's avatar

@elbanditoroso So, if I understand you correctly you agree with the guy I was talking to and disagree with what @JeSuisRickSpringfield wrote. Is that right?

@Blackwater_Park That doesn’t really answer the question about which age group is dying more now.

kneesox's avatar

My impression from what I’ve heard is that the number of younger people is growing relative to how many younger people as before, but not that the number of older people is less. But I haven’t read statistics.

It would make sense that the proportion of older people are decreasing because, first, more of them have been vaccinated, and second, a lot of them have died already.

Lightlyseared's avatar

Its certainly true in the UK. Lower vaccination rate is one factor but the other is probably mixing in large groups at festivals etc.

JLeslie's avatar

@Lightlyseared What’s true in the UK? More younger people are dying than older people? Or, more younger people are dying compared to a year ago?

Do you think the majority of people dying now are under 65?

KNOWITALL's avatar

In my area more younger people are getting sick and hospitalized but their stronger immunity is staving off death.
So here that is not the case. People are very worried about school spreading mutations though and we’ve been warned to be careful through October.

Dutchess_III's avatar

What’s with “under the impression” comment when the data is just a click away?

Dutchess_III's avatar

@KNOWITALL….what’s supposed to happen in October?

jca2's avatar

@Dutchess_III: Sometimes, people’s impressions are not necessarily based on data, but they can still influence behavior.

JLeslie's avatar

@Dutchess_III When people believe they have an understanding of something they are less likely to click around. Plus, once they believe something many people often don’t take in contradictory information even when presented to them. That all adds up to impression being the same as a fact in their/our minds.

I noticed the news using the word more a lot. More children hospitalized now. Also, headlines about children dying. What does more children mean? It seems a lot of people interpret that as more children than adults are hospitalized at the moment. That is not the case.

I did try to Google and found this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/25/pediatric-covid-hospitalizations-surge-to-highest-on-record-in-us-as-doctors-brace-for-more.html saying in the US 1.8% of hospitalizations are children. I’m not sure if that’s over this entire time of covid, or at the moment of the article. When I googled a few days ago about Florida hospitals the way I remember (my memory could be wrong) was 36% of hospitalizations were under 65. I can’t find that article again.

I’m concerned about younger people being hospitalized and dying, so I’m not trying to diminish the concern for that.

What worried me was this man I was talking to seemed to feel it’s not much of a worry anymore for older people, because they are vaccinated, but in fact we have hospitalized breakthrough cases here (more than the US average) although I don’t know if any have died where I live. The breakthrough people I know personally did get released from the hospital.

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Dutchess_III's avatar

Well some people are foolish enough to turn other people’s impression in to facts and start spreading misinformation around.

JLeslie's avatar

@Dutchess_III I’m not talking about people adopting other people’s impressions, it’s their own impression.

Does more hospitalization of young people mean to YOU more younger people than older people are hospitalized?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Dutchess Apparently Covid and flu both should peak then.

Dutchess_III's avatar

No. They’ll just be getting started. The cold months means people congregate inside and in close proximity, spreading germs like wildfires.

See this link from the CDC.

jca2's avatar

Some people are under the impression that Covid numbers are false, or that the virus is a hoax, despite data to the contrary, @Dutchess_III, and they don’t get vaccinated, so there’s an example of what belief can do to behavior.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Exactly. All based on misinformation and rumors.

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