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Does China have a file on you?

Asked by Smashley (12341points) August 23rd, 2022

We all know about China’s “social credit” system and massive surveillance network. My question is, do you think the Party also keep files on everyone else, so far as the data is available? It wouldn’t be as granular, but I imagine it wouldn’t be that hard to start putting together profiles of known entities and adding the data as they get it.

The more I think about it, the more I think they must be doing this. Hell, maybe we are too.

What does your Chinese file show? (Besides your answers to this question)

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jca2's avatar

There was a very interesting interactive article in the NY Times a few weeks ago, about China’s massive surveillance system in public, urban areas. They showed all the cameras that are everywhere and they talked about facial recognition software, listening devices and other things that they use to compile data and keep track of people.

Smashley's avatar

Yup yup, I was just taking it a step farther. Do they do that for everyone in the world, or at least everyone who enters their territory?

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Yes, after my father negotiated service contract for jet engines in 1970s. The Chinese team came to my father’s house for Thanksgiving. They couldn’t believe all the eggs my mom made us as deviled eggs, they had never seen that many eggs at once. They thought the US government had sent the food to impress the Chinese.

elbanditoroso's avatar

How would I know about it? And what could I do about it?

Why waste worry cycles on something like this?

Demosthenes's avatar

Maybe. I have posted a few memes comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh before…

kritiper's avatar

I suspect they do.
“Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil. For I am the meanest SOB in the valley.”
Or so they should think…

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

I would think so. Since they passed a law banning time travel without a license.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

If they do it would be one boring file.

flutherother's avatar

I don’t think I am important enough to have a “file” on me but I have communicated a lot with Chinese citizens in China over the years and have visited the country so I will have been picked up on multiple cities cameras. I suppose if the government felt the need they could quickly create a file from existing digital records and that is probably true of GCHQ in Britain and the NSA in America as well.

ragingloli's avatar

I would expect them to.
So let me tank my social credit score:

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rebbel's avatar

I have a file on China.
I got some dirt on them.
So I’m not worried.

zenvelo's avatar

The only thing in my life of interest to the Chinese is that I prefer Hunan food over Szechuan or Cantonese (especially pot stickers with chili oil), and that my daughter took AP Mandarin in high school.

jca2's avatar

We may think we’re not of interest to the Chinese government but if, in the event that China ever conquers the US, we’ve been putting our personal opinions about politics and everything else all over the internet, which includes our searches, so it may not turn out well.

I understand that China will become the world’s dominant financial market within 10 years. The days of the US being tops are over.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

That sounds scary @jca2 but also believable , lucky thing is China loves Canadians.

Smashley's avatar

@SQUEEKY2 https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-reading-canada-is-reportedly-chinas-least-favourite-country it really doesn’t matter how boring your file is; data is power, and your pieces help bring the whole into focus.

@jca2 – while I’m not particularly worried about China conquering the US territory militarily, but maybe it’s something people should think about before traveling there? We get pretty used to free speech, it’s kind of hard to remember there are such massive forces out to end it.

@flutherother – literally every subject of China is important enough for a file. Why not you, too? Especially when you have entered their country, and you do communicate with people there (who themselves are being surveilled)

@RedDeerGuy1 – heh, catch me if you can, am I right? I wonder if they literally have a “time traveler?” notation on your file somewhere.

gorillapaws's avatar

I think people are lacking imagination for how damaging this info can actually be. Yes, you may be boring, but you may have someone in your circle of friends/acquaintances that is important to them. For example, several of my classmates from high school have some important positions (government, major tech companies, investment firms, etc.). They can triangulate their activities by using your info to some extent (pretending to be you in a reunion email for example). Your data may be only a tiny thread in a large web designed to manipulate or entrap important individuals and influence policy on China. For example, I had a classmate who was involved in the development of the Chrome browser, imagine if the Chinese government threatened to plant child porn on his computer unless he added some source code to the browser?

RocketGuy's avatar

Russians prob have a file on me. I applied for a visa for a launch base visit. Obviously a rocket scientist, so…

More significantly, FB, Amazon, and Google probably have huge files on my online behavior. I just have to think about something, and FB and Amazon pop up product ads related to it.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@RocketGuy Ya right you are . . . . thinking about my car and the next page I turned to has a national auto parts store ad.

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