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Has the Masonic Orders been good for America and the World?

Asked by GAMBIT (3852points) September 25th, 2008
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kelly's avatar

Certainly, especially with their associated Shiners organization and the children’s hospitals and free medical care they provide.

Judi's avatar

What about the Illuminati, and GW’s Skull and Bones?

cwilbur's avatar

Are we talking about reality, or conspiracy theories here?

Judi's avatar

conspiracy theories are way more fun.

JackAdams's avatar

There’s an interesting comentary on them, here.

sundayBastard's avatar

No… All Masons and their affiliates should be publicly executed( Decapitation
). There is no room in a SUPPOSEDELY free country for secret societies. This includes the CIA and others.

If your not up to no good…..Then why the fuck are you secretive. (Well I guess I can understand that they may be a little ashamed of all of the homo erotic things that they partake in behind closed doors).

JackAdams's avatar

I’m actually glad that the CIA exists.

They sometimes get advance warning about things that are being plotted against the USA, in time to actually prevent them from happening.

That justifies their existence, IMHO.

sundayBastard's avatar

Well I guess you are not aware of all the terorist attacks that they are responsible for.

If you want to win the war on terror. Quit participating in it!

Research…..

JackAdams's avatar

If you can definitely prove your allegations, please present them to:

The Associated Press
CNN
Fox News
MSNBC News
CBS News
ABC News
Paul Harvey News

JackAdams's avatar

Translation: “I have no proof, just empty words.”

cwilbur's avatar

Oddly enough, JackAdams, when you’re challenged to provide substantiation for your claims, you respond the same way.

JackAdams's avatar

I have never posted the phrase “Wake Up,” other than here.

sundayBastard's avatar

Who do you think trained Osama bin laden and al zakari or whatever the fuck his name is and a list of others(at the school of americas). who do you think has their boots on the ground first in any type of conflict. The CIA ..

translation: you are a dipshit

sundayBastard's avatar

If I teach you terrorism and you perform an act of terrorism then I have participated in the act. But you are truly a fool if you believe that the CIA is above such activities.

If you want to win the war on terror. Quit participating in it!

sundayBastard's avatar

Proof? What a joke!

richardhenry's avatar

[Fluther Moderator:] @sundayBastard: Calling someone a “dipshit” or telling them to “wake up” is not acceptable here. You are entitled to your opinion, but I’m sure you can get your point across without being so abrasive. Please review the guidelines before continuing to participate.

richardhenry's avatar

[Fluther Moderator:] @sundayBastard: Thanks, man. Enjoy Fluther.

JackAdams's avatar

Besides, the moderators already call me a “dipshit,” when they are speaking among themselves, about me.

richardhenry's avatar

Oh, shush. The term was “doody-face”. ;)

sundayBastard's avatar

I have just received 30 licks with a wet noodle from the moderators. I am now a broken man. Silenced once and for all.

sundayBastard's avatar

I have been micro-FCC’d

richardhenry's avatar

Seriously though, there’s better ways to get your point across than insults. Again, enjoy Fluther. Hope the noodle licks weren’t too hard. Feel free to send me a private comment if you need anything.

boffin's avatar

…..Has the Masonic Orders been good for America and the World?

So Mote It Be…...

maccmann's avatar

www.masonicinfo.com

Dubunking the “debunkers” is it’s job. Defending The Fraternity is another job that this page does very well.

I always find it interesting how people latch onto these theories about “secret societies” and their propensity for “evil” and “world domination.” It’s comforting (I guess) to believe that there is this nebulous secret order or organization controlling the planet and then even easier to blame it on “secret societies.” This is laughable when it’s going on right in front of our faces. Have you been paying attention to any world politics for the past 100 years at all? It’s all about who has the money. If you want someone to blame, blame yourself for not being more active in your efforts to expunge big money from it’s hold on big government, and power mongers from their need for riches.

Commonly referred to as “Revolution,” the idea of changing the world and expelling the unfair hold that money hungry leaders have is just what several Freemasons did in our own Revolution here in what became the United States of America. (And in that case the “secrecy” helped out very nicely, thank you very much!) It has been rumored that the French Revolution was spurred on by Freemasons as well. And while that was unfortunately a blood-bath, also unfortunately so was the War for American Independence; they just had different methods for dealing out death.

The truth of the matter is any organization, no matter how well guarded and well intentioned can be corrupted by a few people who desire power. This includes churches as well. No one is immune. But to throw any organization under the bus for a few nasty people who ruin it for them is ludicrous.

The Masons take good men and make them better. What could ever be wrong with that?

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