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Asked by LostInParadise (32252points) 2 weeks ago

One thing I sometimes do when trying to solve a Wordle puzzle is to make a list of letters and what positions they may have in the target word. For example, a yellow E at the end of the word means that there is an E in one of the positions 1 to 4. If, in addition, there is green T at the beginning of the word, then E must be in one of the positions 2 to 4.

Recently I used this method to help solve a puzzle. I knew that there was both an O in positions 2 or 4 and an S in positions 2 or 4. There was also an E in positions 3 or 4. What additional information can be derived from that?

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elbanditoroso's avatar

You have some interesting theories.

Your first sentence (final yellow E) is obvious – no revelation there.

Green T at the front is much more iffy. A T at the front doesn’t guarantee a later E.

The bottom line to me is that there are a zillion five letter words. You might find some pattern trends, but nothing that you could take to the bank.

smudges's avatar

^^ Green T at the front is much more iffy. A T at the front doesn’t guarantee a later E.

Of course it does! He said there’s an E in the word and it’s not the first letter, so it must be a later letter. I don’t understand your logic. Am I missing something?

zenvelo's avatar

The importance of the yellow E at the end is what it tells you about other possible letters. And that all depends on your starter word.

My first guess today ended in a black E, but the second letter was a yellow A. My second guess had the A as yellow in the fourth position, but no other yellow or green letters. By then I had eliminated 3 other vowels and 5 consonants.

That meant the A was most likely in the third position. I had to test if the last unused vowel would work with the A. The five consonants are among the ten most frequent letters, so it was a matter of three other common consonants. Through that I ended up with two green consonants and a green A in my third guess. That was enough for me to solve the puzzle on my fourth guess.

LostInParadise's avatar

We can conclude that the third letter is an E. The alternative is that E is the fourth letter. That would mean that O and S are both the second letter, which is impossible.

Love_my_doggie's avatar

Anybody want to share your starting word?

My own: AUDIO. I use it every day, and it never fails me. I find it very effective to confirm or eliminate vowels, then to infill some frequently-used consonants.

Jeruba's avatar

Some time back, I opted for not one or two but three starting words. This was after I saw that somebody here was using two. What?? Well, why not?

My three:
LATER
SPINY
DOUGH

With no repetition, this gets all the vowels and most of the common consonants, and puts S and Y and ER where they’re most likely to occur.

Most frequently, I have the word at line 4. Sometimes I have enough information to get it at 3. Seldom do I fail to get it at all, but it does happen once in a while.

smudges's avatar

HORSE, PROSE

LostInParadise's avatar

Having S and O both being in positions 2 or 4 ends up creating a symmetry between letters and positions.which is kind of interesting. It seems a statemeng about the ltetters can have the words letters and positions interchanged and still be true:

We know that O and S must both be in positions 2 or 4. It turns out that positions 2 and 4 must both contain O or S.

It is of course the case that positions 2 and 4 cannot contain both O and S, It turns out that neither of O and S can be in both positions 2 and 4 – no double letters for O and S.

The word in this case was the somewhat obscure POESY.

It turns out that we get analogous results if there is a case where three,(or four or five) letters are all contained in the same three (or four or five) positions.

smudges's avatar

^^ I didn’t clarify. @Love_my_doggie asked if we’d share our starter word/s – that’s all I was doing, not guessing the answer. :)

tedibear's avatar

PLATE, FLEAS, and STOLE have all served me well as starting words.

LostInParadise's avatar

My starting words are CRANE and PIOUS. If the first guess turns up A and E then I think of another word for the second guess based on the results of the first guess.

zenvelo's avatar

My starter words are AUDIO and HAUTE. Trying to ferret out vowels. haute is one less vowel but two common consonants.

If I blank out on haute, I try SONIC.

If I am feeling like I want a change, sometimes I will try DECAY.

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