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lovinglylady85's avatar

Has anyone read a letter from Joe Porter concerning voting?

Asked by lovinglylady85 (2points) October 26th, 2008

The letter can be found on Myspace and possibly google…

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dalepetrie's avatar

Hadn’t read it (or even heard of it) until you posted this question, but I have now, and I’ll say, the guy is entitled to his opinion. I don’t agree with his opinion, but he’s entitled to it.

AlfredaPrufrock's avatar

Who is Joe Porter? Any relation to Joe the Pumber?

augustlan's avatar

So, KidRock is who we’re going to listen to when it comes to voting for president? No.

AlfredaPrufrock's avatar

Sorry, I didn’t see it on the page. You use Kid Rock as a news source?

lovinglylady85's avatar

Ohh i didnt even notice it.. lol no i googled it

lovinglylady85's avatar

I GOOGLED THE LETTER!! I didnt see that kid rock was on the page my main concern was finding the letter so everyone has a chance to read it..

shilolo's avatar

I can’t wait to read Pamela Anderson’s rebuttal… I bet her’s is more thoughtful.

augustlan's avatar

Here it is.

*Edit: The actual letter we’re talking about.

*Edit #2: You’ll need to scroll down to see it.

lovinglylady85's avatar

Yes.. thank you Augustlan.. Gees some people are just immature!

augustlan's avatar

Well, now that I’ve read it, I can say that I’ve noticed something interesting. Parts of this letter have been copy/pasted in answers right here on Fluther by different new users as if they were their own answers. Hmmm…

PS: It’s a load of crap. We are not just voting for some vague “change”. We are voting for a man who has well-reasoned plans for change. Visit his website to see the plans for yourself. Do your own homework, instead of relying on some anonymous person who claims to have done it for you.

AlfredaPrufrock's avatar

Ah, yes, Found the letter, and a thoughtful response

I would say “Joe Porter” is entitled to his position and thoughts.

I would also add, that evaluation of political platforms by those who quantify themselves as Christians would be better analyized if filtered through the concept of “that which you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.” Jesus, was, after all, a socialist in his time.

lovinglylady85's avatar

I think everyone has a right to their opinion and if one voices’
their own opinion shouldn’t be treated any different. We’re all human and agree and disagree on different subjects,have different opinions,families and lifestyles but we all have one thing in common we’re human and have the right to be heard.

augustlan's avatar

@Alfreda: Everyone should read both letters. You have no idea how much I wanted to “Great Answer” that response from Greg Cruey!

shilolo's avatar

“Joe Porter” is as real as Santa Claus. I love the part in the end where the letter lists McCain’s attributes. He’s a maverick…

lovinglylady85's avatar

How old are you shilolo? You sound like your not old enough to vote?

AlfredaPrufrock's avatar

@augustian, it was well crafted.

@lovinglady85, you need to be aware that there is an extremely large segment of the population that would be termed “conservative intelligencia” that many of us who balance in the middle rely on to keep the rope taut so we can balance on it. People like Chris Buckley, Katherine Parker, Susan Eisenhower, and Robert Kagan. The general concensus is that McCain is volatile, and Palin is dangerous in her ignorance.

The President of the United States is a role with global implications. The Economist, a world-read publication since 1843, is conducting a global poll on the presidential election. People who subscribe to this publication include world business leaders.

The real heart of the election has become about McCain/Palin’s danger to the world. McCain made that the issue by his selection of Sarah Palin as a vice president. Had he selected Libby Dole, things probably would be different now.

augustlan's avatar

@loving: As a new user here, there are probably a couple of other things you should be aware of, . Fluther users tend to be overwhelmingly liberal, with a large percentage voting for Obama. That doesn’t mean you’re not welcome here. There are some conservative folks here, too…but intelligent discourse versus rumor/gossip is the preferred method to discuss politics. The other thing is Shilolo is not only old enough to vote, he is a well-respected member here, who is also a [Fluther Moderator].

shilolo's avatar

@Loving. Are you so naive as to believe every internet chain letter you read? If so, I have some inheritance money for you in Nigeria.

This “letter” could most readily be described as outright propaganda promoted by the McCain campaign, which is why I scoffed at the list of McCain attributes that might as well have been summarized directly from McCain talking points.

As others have already enumerated, McCain lost all credibility when he began to run a purely negative campaign and rather than try to be a centrist and a maverick, pandered to the extreme elements in the Republican party. For a hard core analysis of McCain’s failings (from a conservative no less), you can read David Brooks’ Op-Ed piece in the New York Times.

SuperMouse's avatar

WOW! Joe Porter should really be called Joe Average! He has it all going on, father, vet, small business owner – this guy is the epitome of the average American! I am however slightly disappointed that he is from Champaign not Peoria. The fact of the matter is Shilolo said it best when he called this “outright propaganda promoted by the McCain campaign.”

Did this guy really say that there is no evidence that McCain has been influenced by money? Friends I present exhibit A – Cindy McCain.

EmpressPixie's avatar

When I got to the part of the letter that began “Friends,” I knew it was probably propaganda out and out. I recently received some McCain mailing that was littered with that same usage. I always hear, in my head, him saying it at the second debate when I read it. It drives me nuts.

Beyond that, I’ll also say that there are many people who have been willing to go on record that while McCain was a POW, he was also a spoiled brat when it came to his military service, something that letter specifically denies. The Rolling Stone biopiece was incredibly damning in this respect.

To quote: “Dramesi, who went on to serve as chief war planner for U.S. Air Forces in Europe and commander of a wing of the Strategic Air Command, was not surprised. ‘McCain says his life changed while he was in Vietnam, and he is now a different man,’ Dramesi says today. ‘But he’s still the undisciplined, spoiled brat that he was when he went in.’”

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