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Kicked out?

Asked by lilaznstar235 (53points) October 27th, 2008 from iPhone

My group for a project st skool just kicked me out for “not contributing” they went to the teacher to complain before they consulted me. I feel really hurt rite now cause they were good friends of mine. I think its unfair that they would kick me out when all their meetings they do nothing but gossip. I have been doing my part by myself while the others work together. Ive been trying to make all the meetings but I have a Lot of other stuff to balance. As of now ive only had 1 hour of sleep. Ive been so busy. It just upsets me that my own friends can’t understand that. I’m going to have to talk to the teacher tomorrow. Any suggestions?

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scubydoo's avatar

take the work you’ve done and show the teacher. See what He/she says. Be Honest and Explain you situation and see if you could be put into another group if possible. Or maybe see if you can get your own assignment to do by yourself. I always hated group work, there always seemed to be at least one slacker and at least one person who wanted to be “BOSS” of everything. If they didn’t like what you were contibuting, they’d usually change around your work to fit what they wanted it to say or do.

asmonet's avatar

Speak to your teacher with everything you have laid out. Scuby is right.

I was in that exact situation only in reverse and almost got fucked, there I was doing the work of three people. So I got mad as hell and decided I’d prove my work was mine I showed him my work everyday, and on the day it was due, he’d seen the whole project and saw nothing added to the finished product. He knew who did the work. I got extra credit for each person who failed.

So I got 130%. It was badass.

Heh, forgot to add, they stood beside me as I did my presentation and lied to the class and cut in adding bogus trivia to the project as if they’d been involved, all looking clearly lost and being grilled by my teacher.

cheebdragon's avatar

Sounds like they weren’t really that good of friends after all…

AlfredaPrufrock's avatar

@lilazstar, I’m really, really worried about you. This ties back to your other posts about studying relentlessly, not eating, not sleeping. You probably aren’t holding your end up in the group. The point of group projects is “work well WITH others” not “Go off and do your part in a vacuum” You’re missing conversations, evaluations, analysis of the work, collective problem-solving. With group projects, the dynamics of collaboration is really what it’s all about. In the work world, being able to work collaboratively with other is essential, because companies strive to integrate across areas and teams.

I’m the mom of two daughters—one is profoundly gifted, as in accepted to two law schools at age 18, and the other has cognitive learning differences, and tried to catch up with her sister. One is 21 and in her last year of grad school, the other is a 19 year old freshman. I know about achieving and getting into schools. I think you may be on the verge of a complete breakdown if you don’t get some help getting your priorities straight. Getting into a competitive college is not just about grades; it’s the whole package. Competitive schools want students with balanced lives, not grinds.

Evaluate your current study method. Are you doing anything well? You said your grades are slipping, your standard test scores aren’t where you want them to be, you’re health is becoming affected. Where is what you’re doing paying off? What’s Plan B? Working harder does not always work if you’re working harder at the wrong thing.

squirbel's avatar

I’m being frank in my observation, not accusatory at all. I see a lot of excuses, though.

My group for a project st skool just kicked me out for “not contributing” they went to the teacher to complain before they consulted me. I feel really hurt rite now cause they were good friends of mine. I think its unfair that they would kick me out when all their meetings they do nothing but gossip.

In the meetings – if your true intention was getting the work done, you would have asked the group to focus. Saying “they do nothing but gossip” means you went right along with it, and didn’t work either when you guys were in the meeting. And remember – the only activity your group sees you do is what is done in the meeting.

I have been doing my part by myself while the others work together.

When you are in a group, you work as a group. If you are not contributing, the group will feel hurt, and may even have to compensate for the ideas you are not sharing.

Ive been trying to make all the meetings but I have a Lot of other stuff to balance.

This says you are not making all of the meetings. I’m not sure how many you’ve missed – but I am guessing that this is the primary complaint of your group-mates. If this is a project for which you have one week to prepare, and you make 1 of 3 meetings, I would also ask the instructor to disclude you. If it is a 2 week prepatory period, and you make 3 of six meetings, that is also failure to contribute.

“As of now ive only had 1 hour of sleep. Ive been so busy.”

Time management. It is your own responsibility. That is a major part of being an adult. In the working world, your boss will not care what you do on your own private time – you had better perform your duty well. That’s all that matters [unless you are working for Google and they care about your whole person].

It just upsets me that my own friends can’t understand that.

It sounds to me like you are expecting your friends to understand that you are busy and can’t make time for the group. What is more important? Your academics and the groups that are working on those academics? Or your job and fun efforts?

I’m going to have to talk to the teacher tomorrow. Any suggestions?

Don’t make the excuses you made here. I am a teacher in training, and if you come across as a person who prefers to make excuses, my heart hardens. Just own up to it and I will find it easier to work with the teacher. She or he may be willing to step in and request that the group work with you once again. I would, if the student owned up.

lilaznstar235's avatar

yeah the more I think about the more it makes sense. Well my teacher agreed to grade my part separately. The presentation is still with the group. So after arguing with my group mates they finally agreed to meet. I just hope we dont start arguing again.

asmonet's avatar

Do your best to compromise with them so long as it doesn’t undermine your own role, and you should be fine. Good luck.

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